Mary Stewart's Arthurian series still being knocked off? - Page 4

DiapDealer · 07-07-2015, 03:13 PM

There's "new" MMPB reprints available in the US from Eos (for book one). I don't know if that means Harper Collins is the current publisher, or if those paperpacks are just leftovers from the now defunct Eos imprint. I see Harper Voyager listed for some of the later volumes, though.

pdurrant · 07-07-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

That's what I was saying.

Harper Collins is the publisher of her paper books in the U.S. But tellingly, they do not offer e-books of them. Which is why I'm not convinced that the 'pirate book' is one.

The publisher through Smashwords didn't restrict the availability of the Omnibus to the US. I've never heard of that publisher before. They don't have anything published except through Smashwords.

At this point I think it's up to you to demonstrate that they're legitimate. I think they are pirates, certainly on the balance of probabilities, and very nearly beyond reasonable doubt.

ZodWallop · 07-07-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

At this point I think it's up to you to demonstrate that they're legitimate. I think they are pirates, certainly on the balance of probabilities, and very nearly beyond reasonable doubt.

It's cool. I honestly don't much care either way. Was just pointing out that just because her UK publishers weren't familiar with the book didn't automatically mark the book as a pirate edition.

JSWolf · 07-07-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

It's cool. I honestly don't much care either way. Was just pointing out that just because her UK publishers weren't familiar with the book didn't automatically mark the book as a pirate edition.

Prove to us that the editions on Amazon and Smashwords is legit. You won't be able to because they are not legit.

patrickt · 07-07-2015, 07:22 PM

Tonight's giggle. When I saw the title of the thread I thought, "That poor women. Gets sent to prison for insider trading and now this. It just doesn't stop." Oh, wait, that was Martha Stewart.

ZodWallop · 07-07-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Prove to us that the editions on Amazon and Smashwords is legit. You won't be able to because they are not legit.

Meh, this is the United States. Innocent until proven guilty (usually

) I do not need to prove anything.

Also, I don't care much. Those aren't really my kind of books.

JSWolf · 07-07-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Meh, this is the United States. Innocent until proven guilty (usually

) I do not need to prove anything.

Also, I don't care much. Those aren't really my kind of books.

You are saying these books might not be pirated. So prove to us they are not. We've given you some reasons why there are pirated. So prove us wrong.

ZodWallop · 07-07-2015, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You are saying these books might not be pirated. So prove to us they are not. We've given you some reasons why there are pirated. So prove us wrong.

First of all, I have nothing to prove to you. You have your opinion, I have mine.

You know, instead of coming back to me with the same nonsense you could, you know, do something.

I've repeatedly said I don't care either way. But since nobody here seems to want to do anything but complain, I went to the Harper Collins website. They still sell paper versions of the series, but have no e-book versions.

I used the Contact Us link on their website. I'm only expecting a canned response or no response from that. So I dug further and found this link: http://www.harpercollins.com/for-authors/report-piracy

Filled that out also.

ZodWallop · 07-07-2015, 11:29 PM

From the Harper Collins Contact Us site I got this:

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting the HarperCollins online store.

We apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, we are unable to
assist you with questions about the content of the books sold at the
HarperCollins online store.

Please contact HarperCollins at:

In the U.S. and Puerto Rico: http://www.harpercollins.com/footer/help.aspx

In Europe: http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/about.../about-us.aspx

Sincerely,
Gerlald A.
HarperCollins online store
Customer Service
harpercollins.en.cs@digitalriver.com
Email ID: 30055558

ZodWallop · 07-07-2015, 11:30 PM

From the Report Piracy link, I got this:

Quote:

Hello XXX,

Thank you for contacting Digimarc Customer Support. We have received your request and it has been assigned to a member of our support staff for review. We will be in touch shortly with regards to a resolution for your issue.

To review the ticket and add additional comments, please use the link below:
http://support.digimarc.com/hc/requests/53644

Thank you,
Digimarc Customer Support

BenG · 07-07-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Meh, this is the United States. Innocent until proven guilty (usually

)

You're only innocent if you didn't do it.

Presumption of innocence is only for the courts in criminal trials.

pdurrant · 07-08-2015, 05:29 AM

Well done ZodWallop for contacting HarperCollins. It will be interesting to se if you get any (non-canned) response.

Dr. Drib · 07-08-2015, 06:18 AM

The omnibus at Smashwords has been up since (as far as I know) this was first discussed here on Mobileread years ago. Every few years, like eating a can of peppery beans, some individuals on Mobileread get all fired up. Then, once its out of their systems, an uneasy quiet prevails (with the occasional 'outburst' of pent-up gas to let us know the issue is still current). Later, someone brings a newly-bought can-opener to the party, along with another can of beans, and the discussion - like a zombie on steroids - starts all over again.

My observation: Smashwords continues to do nothing about this.

Here's a suggestion: The Smashwords creator is a member here (if my memory is correct). I suggest someone with an interest in this issue PM him and suggest that he remove this bogus omnibus. Whether anything is done, of course, remains to be seen.

Me: I plan to buy the legit Omnibus when it becomes available in the U.S. The covers look wonderful.

pdurrant · 07-08-2015, 06:49 AM

If the publisher of a pirate edition was a member here they'd quickly find themselves a banned member.

Dr. Drib · 07-08-2015, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

If the publisher of a pirate edition was a member here they'd quickly find themselves a banned member.

I don't know if Smashwords is considered a Publisher, or if they define themselves as a Publisher.

I'll need to go back and look at their statements on this. (You may be right with that definition, but I want to check further.)

07-07-2015, 03:13 PM	#46
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,577 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	There's "new" MMPB reprints available in the US from Eos (for book one). I don't know if that means Harper Collins is the current publisher, or if those paperpacks are just leftovers from the now defunct Eos imprint. I see Harper Voyager listed for some of the later volumes, though. Last edited by DiapDealer; 07-07-2015 at 03:18 PM.

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07-07-2015, 07:22 PM	#50
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pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,964 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Well done ZodWallop for contacting HarperCollins. It will be interesting to se if you get any (non-canned) response.

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Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,443 Karma: 59592133 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	The omnibus at Smashwords has been up since (as far as I know) this was first discussed here on Mobileread years ago. Every few years, like eating a can of peppery beans, some individuals on Mobileread get all fired up. Then, once its out of their systems, an uneasy quiet prevails (with the occasional 'outburst' of pent-up gas to let us know the issue is still current). Later, someone brings a newly-bought can-opener to the party, along with another can of beans, and the discussion - like a zombie on steroids - starts all over again. My observation: Smashwords continues to do nothing about this. Here's a suggestion: The Smashwords creator is a member here (if my memory is correct). I suggest someone with an interest in this issue PM him and suggest that he remove this bogus omnibus. Whether anything is done, of course, remains to be seen. Me: I plan to buy the legit Omnibus when it becomes available in the U.S. The covers look wonderful.

07-08-2015, 06:49 AM	#59
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,964 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	If the publisher of a pirate edition was a member here they'd quickly find themselves a banned member.