Ursula K. Le Guin: “I keep Asking You Not to Buy Books from Amazon” - Page 10

GlenBarrington · 06-13-2015, 09:58 AM

The truth is, any dope can not only get published, but have books SOLD in today's new world. But it used to be the dopes had to get very lucky or be smart enough to manage to get published at all.

LeGuin's non writing skills just don't have the value they once had and she finds that bothersome, since it was FUN to be a published author in the old days when so many people with something to say, couldn't get published.

Being one myself, I know a cranky old person who feels the world is passing her by, when I see one.

DiapDealer · 06-13-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

But when was there EVER not a lot of crap being sold?

Oh, c'mon! Don't you remember the good ol' days when you could buy a book sight unseen and just know that it would be great? And for the one or two in a million that weren't; I for one, took great comfort in the fact that the book I was thoroughly hating was, at least, grammatically correct and the words were spelled right. Made it easier to keep slogging through it to the end.

aardbewoner · 06-26-2015, 02:18 PM

I wil never buy a ebook from amazon, reason i can not read them !
The free reading app is WC only. The drm from adobe is WC only.
And I do not have a WC ,even for free i do not want one.

ApK · 06-26-2015, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aardbewoner

I wil never buy a ebook from amazon, reason i can not read them !
The free reading app is WC only. The drm from adobe is WC only.
And I do not have a WC ,even for free i do not want one.

What does that mean?

DiapDealer · 06-26-2015, 03:32 PM

Water closet?

Phogg · 06-26-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

What does that mean?

I think it is intended to mean windows computer.
I have Amazon apps on my android phone for both music and Kindle content though.

kennyc · 06-26-2015, 03:47 PM

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought WC must mean Obamacare...

ApK · 06-26-2015, 03:51 PM

If it means Windows Computer, then it's totally wrong.
There are free reading apps for Mac, iOS, Android, and there is Cloud Reader for Linux or just about any other system. Aside from actually using a Kindle or converting the book of course.

If it means Water Closet, I guess that makes sense. Lots of folks do all their reading there for sure. Not having one might fall under TMI, but I won't judge.

kennyc · 06-26-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

If it means Windows Computer, then it's totally wrong.
There are free reading apps for Mac, iOS, Android, and there is Cloud Reader for Linux or just about any other system. Aside from actually using a Kindle or converting the book of course.

If it means Water Closet, I guess that makes sense. Lots of folks do all their reading there for sure. Not having one might fall under TMI, but I won't judge.

Yep....

DiapDealer · 06-26-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

If it means Windows Computer, then it's totally wrong.
There are free reading apps for Mac, iOS, Android, and there is Cloud Reader for Linux or just about any other system. Aside from actually using a Kindle or converting the book of course.

Not to mention that the "DRM from Adobe is Water Closet only" part is false too. Apps that read ADE encrypted epubs are available for Mac, Android and iOS as well.

I'm guessing @aardbewoner meant Amazon has no native Linux reading app (Cloud Reader aside), nor are there any native Linux apps for reading epubs with Adobe's encryption. Which is true. But hell... I love my Linux machines, too, but I've never once wanted read a book on on one of 'em.

aardbewoner · 06-28-2015, 06:34 AM

That stir up things

Basically I use WC because most assume a PC = WC.
I do wonder if that Cloud Reader can read things i buy from amazon.(what i will not !)
Would be funny if you can read in a browser without additional stuff.

pdurrant · 06-28-2015, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aardbewoner

That stir up things

Basically I use WC because most assume a PC = WC.
I do wonder if that Cloud Reader can read things i buy from amazon.(what i will not !)
Would be funny if you can read in a browser without additional stuff.

If you're willing to run Kindle for PC and ADE under wine, and fiddle with the software from Apprentice Alf, you can read books bought at Amazon and ADE retailers on any device that calibre can convert to..

aardbewoner · 06-28-2015, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

If you're willing to run Kindle for PC and ADE under wine, and fiddle with the software from Apprentice Alf, you can read books bought at Amazon and ADE retailers on any device that calibre can convert to..

Ok that is clear, NEVER buy anything with drm ,waste of money.

PS. kindle for WC you can not download it ignore your request on there site if you run linux

darryl · 06-28-2015, 07:29 AM

There are versions of Adobe Digital Editions that work flawlessly under Crossover Office or Wine on Linux. Version 1.7.2 works well for me. On Sabayon with a KDE Desktop it is as simple as dragging the acsm file from Dolphin into the ADE Window. The epub downloaded to Digital Editions can then be imported into Calibre.

If you never buy anything with DRM you miss out on a lot. With Apprentice Alf, there is no need for you to miss out at all.

DiapDealer · 06-28-2015, 08:01 AM

And if you feel compelled to buy only DRM-free books as a matter of principle, then the topic of reading-app compatibility is fairly moot anyway. You have many choices in reading methods (on many platforms) for DRM-free material.

If you WANT to buy/read DRMed kindle books on Linux, there are ways. If you DON'T want to buy/read DRMed material, then this discussion is pointless.

06-28-2015, 08:01 AM	#150
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	And if you feel compelled to buy only DRM-free books as a matter of principle, then the topic of reading-app compatibility is fairly moot anyway. You have many choices in reading methods (on many platforms) for DRM-free material. If you WANT to buy/read DRMed kindle books on Linux, there are ways. If you DON'T want to buy/read DRMed material, then this discussion is pointless. Last edited by DiapDealer; 06-28-2015 at 08:11 AM.

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06-13-2015, 09:58 AM	#136
GlenBarrington Cheese Whiz Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a.	The truth is, any dope can not only get published, but have books SOLD in today's new world. But it used to be the dopes had to get very lucky or be smart enough to manage to get published at all. LeGuin's non writing skills just don't have the value they once had and she finds that bothersome, since it was FUN to be a published author in the old days when so many people with something to say, couldn't get published. Being one myself, I know a cranky old person who feels the world is passing her by, when I see one.

06-26-2015, 02:18 PM	#138
aardbewoner Grumpy Posts: 78 Karma: 2222222 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: linux computers ,raspberry	I wil never buy a ebook from amazon, reason i can not read them ! The free reading app is WC only. The drm from adobe is WC only. And I do not have a WC ,even for free i do not want one.

06-26-2015, 03:32 PM	#140
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Water closet?

06-26-2015, 03:47 PM	#142
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Thanks for clearing that up. I thought WC must mean Obamacare...

06-26-2015, 03:51 PM	#143
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,402 Karma: 69116640 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	If it means Windows Computer, then it's totally wrong. There are free reading apps for Mac, iOS, Android, and there is Cloud Reader for Linux or just about any other system. Aside from actually using a Kindle or converting the book of course. If it means Water Closet, I guess that makes sense. Lots of folks do all their reading there for sure. Not having one might fall under TMI, but I won't judge.

06-28-2015, 06:34 AM	#146
aardbewoner Grumpy Posts: 78 Karma: 2222222 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: linux computers ,raspberry	That stir up things Basically I use WC because most assume a PC = WC. I do wonder if that Cloud Reader can read things i buy from amazon.(what i will not !) Would be funny if you can read in a browser without additional stuff.

06-28-2015, 07:29 AM	#149
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	There are versions of Adobe Digital Editions that work flawlessly under Crossover Office or Wine on Linux. Version 1.7.2 works well for me. On Sabayon with a KDE Desktop it is as simple as dragging the acsm file from Dolphin into the ADE Window. The epub downloaded to Digital Editions can then be imported into Calibre. If you never buy anything with DRM you miss out on a lot. With Apprentice Alf, there is no need for you to miss out at all.