Ebook News from hoopla, 3M Cloud Library, and eBooks/Piracy Ruling in the UK

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Then how did this happen:
http://ccc.de/en/updates/2014/ccc-censored-in-uk

This was a choice by a certain ISP, apparently Vodaphone. The fact that it could still be access via IP address shows that it wasn't an IP address block via court order.

Originally Posted by Nate the great

And this:
https://torrentfreak.com/largest-pir...k-isps-140910/

That was following a court order.

Originally Posted by Nate the great

And this:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...atsoever.shtml

Similarly, following a court order

Originally Posted by Nate the great

And this:
http://bsdly.blogspot.ca/2013/12/the...ds-access.html

This is entirely about a filter by O2, which can be opted out by any adult subscriber.


There is the Internet Watch list of child porn sites that all UK ISPs block.
There are court-ordered blocks for copyright infringement.
And then there are ISP-run block lists which an adult subscriber can opt out of.

You should not mix them up, as your article does.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

This is entirely about a filter by O2, which can be opted out by any adult subscriber.

Yes, that's what I've just posted a screen-shot of. As you can see from the screen-shot, it tells you exactly what you have to do to opt out.

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

This was a choice by a certain ISP, apparently Vodaphone. The fact that it could still be access via IP address shows that it wasn't an IP address block via court order.



That was following a court order.



Similarly, following a court order



This is entirely about a filter by O2, which can be opted out by any adult subscriber.


There is the Internet Watch list of child porn sites that all UK ISPs block.
There are court-ordered blocks for copyright infringement.
And then there are ISP-run block lists which an adult subscriber can opt out of.

You should not mix them up, as your article does.

Yep. I've crossed off the second half of the post and disavowed it.

I still think this move was pointless. It didn't block the content, just access to search engines and link sites.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

I still think this move was pointless. It didn't block the content, just access to search engines and link sites.

As I said earlier in this thread, that's the whole point of it - to stop people inadvertently accessing these sites via search-engine results and link sites. It will not stop - and, indeed, makes no claim to stop - people who deliberately set out to pirate material.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The screenshot below, taken from my iPad, shows what happens when you access a site which is blocked by adult content filters. I'm sure you'll agree that it's nonsense to suggest the most users will be unable to understand how to bypass this block?

And if I want confirmation that popup is not a third party attempt and identity theft O2 would be pleased to supply company credit card information.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

And if I want confirmation that popup is not a third party attempt and identity theft O2 would be pleased to supply company credit card information.

If anyone were really that paranoid, they could always phone O2 customer service and confirm with them that the message really did come from O2, although the URL should be proof enough, unless you suspect someone of hijacking O2's domain. Personally, as you can see, I haven't bothered - I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in accessing porn sites.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If anyone were really that paranoid, they could always phone O2 customer service and confirm with them that the message really did come from O2, although the URL should be proof enough, unless you suspect someone of hijacking O2's domain. Personally, as you can see, I haven't bothered - I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in accessing porn sites.

I would definitely figure that it was a scam, because I don't understand what having a credit card has to do with age verification.

Shari

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by shalym

I would definitely figure that it was a scam, because I don't understand what having a credit card has to do with age verification.

Shari

In the UK, you have to be 18 to have a credit card. You can have a debit card at a younger age, but not a credit card.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

In the UK, you have to be 18 to have a credit card. You can have a debit card at a younger age, but not a credit card.

I don't want big brother trying to tell me what web sites I can see or not.

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I don't want big brother trying to tell me what web sites I can see or not.

Then you opt out of the filter.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Then you opt out of the filter.

Can you opt out of the block on some sites?

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can you opt out of the block on some sites?

You can't opt out of the block on child porn, or on sites where the block has been done through a court order.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

You can't opt out of the block on child porn, or on sites where the block has been done through a court order.

I would not knowingly visit an site with child porn. But I have visited torrent sites without downloading anything.

[murg]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can you opt out of the block on some sites?

Get a VPN.

All the hip kids are doing it...

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by murg

Get a VPN.

All the hip kids are doing it...

I do have one.