Kobo Glo HD - Page 78

Rizla · 05-25-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

Edited to say that I see you do own a kindle. So I guess you know some of this already then. To sum up, an H20 isn't going to solve the issues you're having. I can't speak as to how different it performs to the Aura HD, but it sounds similar, from what you've sad.

I'm not sure that I agree. I've had a HD Glo, and now have an Aura HD. The page-turn delays was ridiculous on the HD Glo. I lterally had time to look at my watch while I was waiting. On the Aura HD with the same FW, it's acceptable. And I'll probably downgrade the FW to make it faster.

So really, the HD Glo is a lot slower than the Aura HD, and presumably other Kobo models. I don't know why that's so. The Glo HD is capable of faster page-turns. It's the FW on it upsetting the hardware.

Nick_1964 · 05-25-2015, 03:24 PM

I don't know going back to 3.14 is better for the Glo HD ??

Ripplinger · 05-25-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

The page-turn delays was ridiculous on the HD Glo. I lterally had time to look at my watch while I was waiting.

How I'm living with it now rather than bothering trying to download back to 3.14.0 (which I'm not sure anyone has tested to see if it's better at turning pages or not) is simply to start the page turn sooner when I have about a sentence left instead of just a few words. The page is then turned right when I need it without me waiting for it and getting aggravated over it.

Since we know it's capable of of turning pages fast, I'm sure it will be fixed in future firmware updates, but with Kobo, you never know when. Starting the page turn sooner than usual just avoids any frustration over it.

jiminrussell · 05-25-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

I'm not sure that I agree. I've had a HD Glo, and now have an Aura HD. The page-turn delays was ridiculous on the HD Glo. I lterally had time to look at my watch while I was waiting. On the Aura HD with the same FW, it's acceptable. And I'll probably downgrade the FW to make it faster.

So really, the HD Glo is a lot slower than the Aura HD, and presumably other Kobo models. I don't know why that's so. The Glo HD is capable of faster page-turns. It's the FW on it upsetting the hardware.

I still have my Glo HD as well as the Aura HD, I see no difference in the page turn speed between the two, both are on FW 3.15. There must have been something wrong with your Glo HD for it to be that slow.

rorkas · 05-25-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

Yes, the H20 has the same issues with inaccuracy, but it doesn't take as long as 3-4 seconds to activate the menu. The latest firmware has made page turns slower, as others have mentioned. I have found to highlight a single word to bring up the dictionary, you need to press slightly above the word and then it works fine so I have no issues. Highlighting sentences is faster now with the newest firmware, but it is still not done as seamlessly as on other brands.

sparklemotion, I tried your way of bringing up dictionary and it works just fine. What a difference compared to when I tried to touch the actual word and was getting anything (or nothing) but the highlighted word. Thanks a lot for the tip. It's a little bit weird (this inaccuracy compared to Kindle), but, I think, I can live with that and may actually keep Glo HD. Other than this, I like this reader a lot. Page turn lag didn't bother me as much as highlighting glitch and hopefully (fingers crossed) Kobo will fix these "features" rather sooner than later.
This forum was really helpful during my first Kobo experience. I just wish that Kobo folks themselves were at least half as useful as you guys.
Thanks.

sparklemotion · 05-25-2015, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizla

I'm not sure that I agree. I've had a HD Glo, and now have an Aura HD. The page-turn delays was ridiculous on the HD Glo. I lterally had time to look at my watch while I was waiting. On the Aura HD with the same FW, it's acceptable. And I'll probably downgrade the FW to make it faster.

Hmm.. that surprises me that it is that slow on the HD Glo. I wonder if maybe something was wrong with the one you had? I don't have one, so I can't speak to it, but the H20 is definitely not that slow. It seems like people are having difference experiences on the same firmware/same device. While the latest firmware has slowed down page turns on kepubs a little bit for me on my H20, I've adjusted to it and it's not a problem for me personally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorkas

sparklemotion, I tried your way of bringing up dictionary and it works just fine. What a difference compared to when I tried to touch the actual word and was getting anything (or nothing) but the highlighted word. Thanks a lot for the tip. It's a little bit weird (this inaccuracy compared to Kindle), but, I think, I can live with that and may actually keep Glo HD. Other than this, I like this reader a lot. Page turn lag didn't bother me as much as highlighting glitch and hopefully (fingers crossed) Kobo will fix these "features" rather sooner than later.
This forum was really helpful during my first Kobo experience. I just wish that Kobo folks themselves were at least half as useful as you guys.
Thanks.

I'm so glad it was helpful to you. The accuracy is odd, I agree. I'm not holding my breath on a firmware fix for it, but one can hope

davidfor · 05-25-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jiminrussell

I still have my Glo HD as well as the Aura HD, I see no difference in the page turn speed between the two, both are on FW 3.15. There must have been something wrong with your Glo HD for it to be that slow.

I'm with you on this. Over the weekend I did a test with both. Loaded the same epub, set the same apparent font size and tapped the screen on both at the same time. I couldn't see anything different. Maybe I need to go back to 3.13.1 on the H2O for a comparison, but I really didn't notice a difference when upgrading.

lotteryticket · 05-25-2015, 10:59 PM

I own the GloHD and I don't find the page turns to be slow. It takes about .5-1.5 seconds for a page turn on an Epub file. I think it really depends on the contents of the book you are reading. Another thing to consider is the file format. For some reason, I find that .mobi files take considerably longer to open (5-12 seconds) than epub files (2-5 seconds). I can't really speak for pdf files yet. The ones I've tried work fine, except for default zoom levels being off here and there.

filmo · 05-26-2015, 12:10 AM

.mobi having slower page turns should not surprise anyone. Kobo doesn't sell mobi books. Wasting money improving mobi on Kobo readers is lowest priority. If you want to read mobi book on a Kobo reader use calibre to convert it to epub. Page turn speed is interesting but using one reader exclusively for short time then that reader will seem normal. My biggest page turn problem was after buying new reader with faster page turns. I would turn page too soon then back a page to read last sentence or 2 I had missed.

cerem0ny · 05-26-2015, 03:31 AM

I went into a jbhifi in Aus today to have a look and I was pretty disappointed. I'm also all about the screen (hence my obsession and love for the H2o which still blows me away sometimes) and there was really nothing special about the device.
I thought the design was really cute- really basic but utalitarian and its probably the best back cover of any kobo. On the lates firmware too, it seemed to run very, very fast too. The light is probably up there with the h2o in terms of evenness and distribution so good jok Kobo.
But yeah, you have no idea how much I wanted to buy this. I went into the store with cash in hand pretty much. But yeah, unfortunately the 300ppi didn't blow me away like I thought it should so for now, I'm happily sticking with my beautiful (however, slightly scratched/chipped screen'd) kobo!!

Oops- deleted the wrong part lol!!! Edit: the 300ppi sux, it looks worse than the h20 and possibly even worse than the original glo. It seems kobo have opted to stick with the cold, icy blue that makes me feel like a junkie in one of those blue light bathrooms every time I open the device. Such a shame, I -needed- to throw away my money on this!

booklover6 · 05-26-2015, 10:23 AM

I don't think looking at a device in a store is good enough for proper evaluation. I think it is best to view at home, with one's own books on it. If a device is bought from a place where it can be easily returned, then do it. That is the best way to truly evaluate a device.

JSWolf · 05-26-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick_1964

I don't know going back to 3.14 is better for the Glo HD ??

That depends. Can you live with a stock Kobo firmware or do you want the patches? There are no patches for 3.14.0.

Nick_1964 · 05-26-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

That depends. Can you live with a stock Kobo firmware or do you want the patches? There are no patches for 3.14.0.

That depends on the troubles in 3.15.. I was only wondering, how many people tried the device with 3.14 and upgrade to 3.15 with problems and if there is really a difference between it. (as in,where there problems they experience in 3.15 that are not in 3.14 ? )
If 3.15 introduces the problems some users experience it can maybe better to go back to an unpatched 3.14 (if you are for sure that that one was okay) and wait for a 3.16 with patches and hopefully fixed problems from 3.15 then stuck into one that keeps having problems.
I would rather have a unpatched 14 with no problems, than a patched 3.15 with problems... I was just wondering..
I will get the device in about a week and have to wait what firmware is on it.. If there are no problems in 3.14 then we know it is the firmware on it that is making problems or the device itself.

Ripplinger · 05-26-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick_1964

That depends on the troubles in 3.15.. I was only wondering, how many people tried the device with 3.14 and upgrade to 3.15 with problems and if there is really a difference between it. (as in,where there problems they experience in 3.15 that are not in 3.14 ? )

Unless you find someone who purposely circumvented the usual method to set up their Glo HD with the workaround that lets you setup the reader without logging in at all, we all got upgraded to 3.15.0 when we set up the readers and never had a chance to use 3.14. I got mine 2 days after the release date and 3.15.0 was already issued.

Nick_1964 · 05-26-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripplinger

Unless you find someone who purposely circumvented the usual method to set up their Glo HD with the workaround that lets you setup the reader without logging in at all, we all got upgraded to 3.15.0 when we set up the readers and never had a chance to use 3.14. I got mine 2 days after the release date and 3.15.0 was already issued.

Hmm.. transfer the device.xml file from another device will not work before setup I guess, read early that it can be transferred from one to another... that is a thing I can try when I have it.
But, a good point..
My "problem" is that when it arrives here, somewhere in june, I can have it for 14 days, then I have to send it back.
If there is no new firmware before that date or the new firmware doesn't fix the problems people called earlyer, I am stuck with it..
But then on the other hand, if it does upgrade to 3.15 after installation, the 3.14 firmware can be installed over 3.15 and then the setup doesn't have to be performed again, so just let wifi off must prevent it from again upgrading to 3.15... or do I again miss something ??

05-25-2015, 03:24 PM	#1157
Nick_1964 Bookworm Posts: 975 Karma: 768585 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Netherlands Device: Sony prs-650, Kobo Glo HD (2x), Kobo Glo	I don't know going back to 3.14 is better for the Glo HD ?? Last edited by Nick_1964; 05-25-2015 at 03:27 PM.

05-26-2015, 03:31 AM	#1165
cerem0ny Evangelist Posts: 449 Karma: 3059202 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra Colour, Kindle Scribe 2024	I went into a jbhifi in Aus today to have a look and I was pretty disappointed. I'm also all about the screen (hence my obsession and love for the H2o which still blows me away sometimes) and there was really nothing special about the device. I thought the design was really cute- really basic but utalitarian and its probably the best back cover of any kobo. On the lates firmware too, it seemed to run very, very fast too. The light is probably up there with the h2o in terms of evenness and distribution so good jok Kobo. But yeah, you have no idea how much I wanted to buy this. I went into the store with cash in hand pretty much. But yeah, unfortunately the 300ppi didn't blow me away like I thought it should so for now, I'm happily sticking with my beautiful (however, slightly scratched/chipped screen'd) kobo!! Oops- deleted the wrong part lol!!! Edit: the 300ppi sux, it looks worse than the h20 and possibly even worse than the original glo. It seems kobo have opted to stick with the cold, icy blue that makes me feel like a junkie in one of those blue light bathrooms every time I open the device. Such a shame, I -needed- to throw away my money on this! Last edited by cerem0ny; 05-26-2015 at 03:48 AM.

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lotteryticket Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2015 Device: Kobo GloHD	I own the GloHD and I don't find the page turns to be slow. It takes about .5-1.5 seconds for a page turn on an Epub file. I think it really depends on the contents of the book you are reading. Another thing to consider is the file format. For some reason, I find that .mobi files take considerably longer to open (5-12 seconds) than epub files (2-5 seconds). I can't really speak for pdf files yet. The ones I've tried work fine, except for default zoom levels being off here and there.

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filmo Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 1077205 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Sony T1, Kobo Mini	.mobi having slower page turns should not surprise anyone. Kobo doesn't sell mobi books. Wasting money improving mobi on Kobo readers is lowest priority. If you want to read mobi book on a Kobo reader use calibre to convert it to epub. Page turn speed is interesting but using one reader exclusively for short time then that reader will seem normal. My biggest page turn problem was after buying new reader with faster page turns. I would turn page too soon then back a page to read last sentence or 2 I had missed.

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booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	I don't think looking at a device in a store is good enough for proper evaluation. I think it is best to view at home, with one's own books on it. If a device is bought from a place where it can be easily returned, then do it. That is the best way to truly evaluate a device.