Kobo Glo HD

[93terp]

Originally Posted by Ripplinger

Mine was delivered to the US in 2 days via USPS ground, I'm pretty sure they're just covering all possibilities. My package did require a signature though, so you know to watch for the mailman or have someone there who can sign.

Yep, mine was delivered in 2 days too. It came this morning and required a signature.

[odamizu]

Nate posts a teaser review: http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/0...w-kobo-glo-hd/

Doh!

[John F]

Originally Posted by odamizu

Nate posts a teaser review: http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/0...w-kobo-glo-hd/

Doh!

It would be interesting to get an in depth analysis; direct screen captures and good photos using the same book in Kindle and epub and kepub, same font and font size, and a few font weights on the kobo. Using Voyage, Paperwhite, Glo HD, and H2O.

Please.

I really expected the Glo HD to be comparable to the Voyage (and better than the H2O). I hope it is some trivial software problem.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by odamizu

Nate posts a teaser review: http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/0...w-kobo-glo-hd/

Doh!

I have to take real exception to that review. Can't tell the difference with the Paperwhite? Both the H20 and GloHD are immediately very obviously better than than both Gen's of Paperwhite at text rendering. And slower/clunkier than the Aura? It sounds like he's reviewing a Glo rather than the GloHD.

[odamizu]

Didn't Nate say he dropped his GloHD review unit at one point?

[Rizla]

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[odamizu]

Originally Posted by disconnected

... It doesn’t help that despite the new high-res screen Amazon hasn’t added any more font sizes; I need something between the fourth and fifth ones ...

Btw, there's a shockingly easy hack that will allow you to customize font-sizes on a Kindle Voyage (and perhaps other Kindles) running 5.6.1.0.5 or 5.6.2.1. All it takes is a text file with 8 numbers dropped into your Kindle's root folder (no jailbreak!) Details here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...12#post3088512

Sorry for going off-topic. Back to the GloHD discussion ...

[Star56]

Frankly that is an absurd review. If he cannot distinguish the original paperwhite OR the PW2 from the Glo HD screen then he is either
1. Lying 2. Got a wacky defective Glo HD 3. Is pulling our leg.

The difference in resolution and readability between the PW units and the Glo HD is so obvious that this opinion is not credible and silly.

[Star56]

Originally Posted by John F

It would be interesting to get an in depth analysis; direct screen captures and good photos using the same book in Kindle and epub and kepub, same font and font size, and a few font weights on the kobo. Using Voyage, Paperwhite, Glo HD, and H2O.

Please.

I really expected the Glo HD to be comparable to the Voyage (and better than the H2O). I hope it is some trivial software problem.

The Glo HD is superior to the H20 in readability. The difference is obvious despite the "review".

[Fx_]

Originally Posted by Ripplinger

I only have a PW2 to do any comparisons with, but is the firmware that different between the PW2 and the Voyage that they included the ability to darken fonts on the Voyage? I know on the PW2 there is absolutely no ability to darken, thicken, or add weight to any font, and you're stuck with the few system fonts.

I know I wasn't clear (could it be, that I was the source of misconception?) check at the end of this respond something might be an interest to you.

Originally Posted by murg

While the parts are being manufactured by someone else, it is Kobo's/Amazon's responsibility to properly QA the devices.

I agree, however E-Ink Corp should QC their own screens before handling them to others. It's all about giving credits where its due. Amazon/Kobo are to be blamed as well, but E-Ink Corp's fault should be highlighted.

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About the font weight thing.

To give a better proof of concept, I decided to do it myself (not too shabby for my first epub :P).
Here is an epub, I created with font weight that varies in thickness (boldness). It's going to be nearly one week before I receive my Voyage, so I couldn't test it out (your feedback/screenshot would be greatly appreciated).

Give it a try, hopefully you find it useful.

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by Fx_

Higher prices are actually an indicator of how much engineering, material, researching, and even software development that went into the product.

Sorry this is not an discussionboard about difference between Amazon of Kobo, but this is rubbish.
Sure, a manufactorer wants his money back,and sure he wants to make some profit, but if I make a very bad tablet or e-reader and price it high,that should be according to you, an indicator of how much engineering there is in, that is what the commercial part of the company wants you to believe.

By example, some years ago you have a tv brand Called Aristona, and it was rather low in price against a competition company called Philips which is much more expensive.
The high price was defended with the story that the Philips components are much better.
It worked and the commercials against Aristona from Philips get more and more agressive.
They used Aristona to defend their higher prices.
If Philips was a device class A, then Aristona was a class G or something,they even give the retailers more marge on the Philips so they use Aristona only for an example: "It is so cheap, it just can't be good, and yes Philips is much more expensive but you pay for quality !"
On Philips you got 3 years warrantee,on Aristona only 1.
Later on,they discovered that in the inside of Aristona devices,are only Philips parts and even later they discovered that the production of Aristona was made completely in the Philips factory.
They only made the brand Aristona to make the price of the Philips even more higher.
And if people still buy an Aristona,they get the money also.

Grundig did the same with Vestel, Grundig mainly made in Germany, but Vestel was from a Grundig factory in Turkey, Grundig was the best, Vestel was the most worst (in the commercials)

Most of the time in this day, you pay for the brand and marketing,not for the quality.
But there are more costs like copyrights of dictionary's and used fonts that are in the price.
Maybe Kobo uses cheaper fonts,cheaper dictionary's then Voyage, but cheaper doesn't mean it has a lower quality,only different. (But you can use custom fonts and dictionary's in the Kobo.)

But again, you made your choice on your own arguments and that is very fine, I am not a Kobo guy,you don't have to defend your choice.
I am not saying that Kobo is better then Voyager or vice versa, but the difference in price does not justify the "difference" in quality.
Only some arguments are a bit odd for me,but because English is not my native language,I can't deal with every part of your explaination.
If u want,we can go on with this discussion in private messages ?

[John F]

Originally Posted by Star56

The Glo HD is superior to the H20 in readability. The difference is obvious despite the "review".

Wouldn't it be nice though, for people who don't have all the devices, if there was some way we could see the differences, instead of just he said/she said?

One persons "obvious" maybe another persons "I do not see any difference".

[booklover6]

Originally Posted by Star56

The Glo HD is superior to the H20 in readability. The difference is obvious despite the "review".

Superior to the H2O? Did you mean to say that?

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by odamizu

Nate posts a teaser review: http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/0...w-kobo-glo-hd/

Doh!

I cannot comment re: his notes about screen quality as I don't have a recent gen device to compare it with. It looks okay. Nothing to shout about. I don't think e-ink screens have improved much since pearl.

But my Glo HD is literally painfully slow turning pages. That is running epubs, not kepubs.

What kinds of speeds are other people getting? I am comparing it to a Nook ST (rooted, using Alreader) and a Sony T2. Both seem faster. One difference is that the T2 and the Nook seem to merge the two pages. It's hard to explain. But the Kobo seems to clear the screen entirely between pages. I'm not talking about the page-refresh every six page turns.

What speeds are other people getting? Please state what you are comparing it to. Perhaps the problem is not common to all Glo HDs?

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by John F

Wouldn't it be nice though, for people who don't have all the devices, if there was some way we could see the differences, instead of just he said/she said?

One persons "obvious" maybe another persons "I do not see any difference".

Yep.. taste can be the difference, but that is even between kobo's kepub and epub, I like to read, so all the statistics in Kepub only disturbes me, i want to know at what page i am and how much left, not what chapter and how many percentage I read in it.
In practice, I never convert a book in kepub, but there are a lot of people only want the kepub.

If I want to try an Voyage, I have to order it in Germany or Great Britain, they are about 195 euro's compared to a glo HD that is about 120 euro's and you can buy from june 1st in almost every shop.
When I could compare both I could defend both from my point of view, but it will be "colored" by my preferences...