Firmware 3.15 discussion thread - Page 11

Nick_1964 · 05-04-2015, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maida

Thanks. I didn't know and it was bothering me.

I understand ,but there is no patch to disable this and use only the slider in the menu.
So that is why I memorised the setting in the menu itself,when i change the value bij accident, I can put it back to the level where it was on before.

Canuck_in_Japan · 05-04-2015, 06:57 AM

Just checking as this new update sounds amazing according to some people and terrible according to others. If I read only EPUB, is this worth installing?

cramoisi · 05-04-2015, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

Just checking as this new update sounds amazing according to some people and terrible according to others. If I read only EPUB, is this worth installing?

I'd say yes as they are snappier and correctly hyphenated.

Gilgamesh · 05-04-2015, 09:42 AM

I'm wondering if this is normal.

Kobo desktop has upgraded to 3.15 but my Aura HD has not. It is still on 3.12.1. Kobo desktop upgraded about four days ago.

Also, will 3.15 get rid of the terrible ghosting I see whenever the Aura is awakened from sleep. If it's been asleep overnight (using a cover), when I awaken to read it I get a lot of ghosting from the book cover. It's really irritating.

PeterT · 05-04-2015, 09:49 AM

its quite normal for desktop to upgrade and eReader not too upgrade.

davidfor · 05-04-2015, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cramoisi

Some reflexions to add after testing further the epubs. I tested with classic french epub justified left and right.

1. Page turning of epubs are snappier than 3.12.1
2. Hyphenation are now correct (in french, and i updated the hypen dic to the Libre Office one) even when there is trailing punctuation which is not the case with kepub.

But :

3. I can't deactivate hyphenation anymore (typically when I choose Justify : deactivated in the in-book option)
4. I can't justify to left only anymore (same menu, second option)

If the book is justify left (I convert it with Calibre), hyphenation is not working and in-book option to justify left and right (and activate hyphenation) doesn't work. And I'm sure I could do all I can't do now in 3.12.1.

On the whole, running epub seems better (to me) since the justify left and right + correct hyphenation is closer to the paper book experience.

How have you set the alignment in the book. If you set the text alignment in the book at the paragraph level, changing the alignment on the reader doesn't change anything. If it is set in the body, the device will override it. Personally, I strip the alignment except where it is important.

For hyphenation, I usually don't see it. I usually use ragged-right, so there is minimal hyphenation. When I do set the alignment to justify, or read a book that has it set, the hyphenation seems to be OK.

I have just checked the above with epub. A quick test of kepub seems to show that the device will override all the alignment.

cramoisi · 05-04-2015, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfor

How have you set the alignment in the book. If you set the text alignment in the book at the paragraph level, changing the alignment on the reader doesn't change anything. If it is set in the body, the device will override it. Personally, I strip the alignment except where it is important.

For hyphenation, I usually don't see it. I usually use ragged-right, so there is minimal hyphenation. When I do set the alignment to justify, or read a book that has it set, the hyphenation seems to be OK.

I have just checked the above with epub. A quick test of kepub seems to show that the device will override all the alignment.

For the test with left and right justification, i just took the book as it was (didn't change anything). For the conversion, i just used the option via the convert book in calibre. It doesn't prove wrong until now...

EDIT :
And you're right. Calibre sets the alignment in paragraph level.... This explains that... How can I strip the alignment with calibre ?

(i'm pretty sure there was a "no justification" checkbox in the look and feel panel but i can't find it anymore. I can strip all text-align with css filter, but I only want to disable justification on the paragraph)

howyoudoin · 05-04-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by arspr

Strange...

Could you either post it (public book) or PM it (copyrighted book, I promise I won't distribute)? I would like to take a look at it.

I've PM'd you the kePub.

aceflor · 05-04-2015, 11:53 AM

So, bottom line.. I am on 3.12.1 with my Aura, and 3.13 on my H2O. I read epubs. Should I upgrade both, one (and then which one) or none ?

Ripplinger · 05-04-2015, 02:58 PM

I've never bothered with the browser before, but wow, it's pretty awful hehe. It does a double flash after touching anywhere, it doesn't remember login info, but it does work to at least download a book from DropBox.

That's the only reason I tested it, to be sure my fail safe works in case I'm ever out and the reader locks up and I have to do a reset so I could go back to reading. I ended up creating a new much shorter email address just for DropBox and a pretty insecure short password (something I never do) just to make it more bearable to log in when needed.

It's odd that the games are still there for the Glo with the 3.15.0 firmware, just not on the Glo HD. That almost makes me think they will add them to the Glo HD possibly in the future? I don't care either way, I never play the games, same like I never use the browser... I just read.

arspr · 05-04-2015, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howyoudoin

I've PM'd you the kePub.

Pretty strange... I'm also on H2O and I don't get the double refresh you mentioned.

I've also checked the code and there's no embedded fonts.

And also where have you obtained the file? I mean, it only has a .kepub extension. If I drop that file on my H2O it is not recognized as an ebook. I need to change it to the standard .kepub.epub if I want it to be usable.

Namenlos · 05-04-2015, 03:30 PM

Has anyone tested this on the Kobo Mini? I don't have a µsd cardreader right now, so I don't want to try it out without a confirmation.

jackie_w · 05-04-2015, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arspr

Pretty strange... I'm also on H2O and I don't get the double refresh you mentioned.

I've also checked the code and there's no embedded fonts.

And also where have you obtained the file? I mean, it only has a .kepub extension. If I drop that file on my H2O it is not recognized as an ebook. I need to change it to the standard .kepub.epub if I want it to be usable.

If you convert to kepub in calibre the resultant file will have a .kepub extension in the library. Calibre will automatically rename .kepub to .kepub.epub during send-to-device.

Re: your sample file, I'm not sure that embedded fonts are necessary to trigger the 'double flash' in kepub. I've also seen it in a test file of my own when there was css code like font-family: "Celtic", serif; and I didn't have a font named "Celtic" on the Kobo.

ETA: I'm also not sure whether this is new in 3.15.0 as I didn't try this particular epub before upgrading.

arspr · 05-04-2015, 05:12 PM

Thanks for your explanation jackie_w. (I don't use the kepub converter but just Kobo Touch Extended driver and its conversion on-the-fly so I didn't know about it).

I've re-checked howyoudoin's book and in fact it sometimes uses font-family: Sans-Serif; in certain parts. But nevertheless I don't get the double refresh...

(Kobo and its mysteries...)

fdant · 05-04-2015, 08:10 PM

There's two things on this update that really annoys me:

1. a subtle flickering on the frontlight (almost) everytime I long press a word. It is only noticeable if the percentage is set around 20% or low, but I always read at 1%.
2. when I highlight a word, the menu still lingers on the screen for almost 3 seconds.

Besides that, I think they improved a lot the selection handles: it's much more easy to rearrange them.

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05-04-2015, 06:57 AM	#152
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,476 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	Just checking as this new update sounds amazing according to some people and terrible according to others. If I read only EPUB, is this worth installing?

05-04-2015, 09:42 AM	#154
Gilgamesh Member Posts: 15 Karma: 8570 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: none	I'm wondering if this is normal. Kobo desktop has upgraded to 3.15 but my Aura HD has not. It is still on 3.12.1. Kobo desktop upgraded about four days ago. Also, will 3.15 get rid of the terrible ghosting I see whenever the Aura is awakened from sleep. If it's been asleep overnight (using a cover), when I awaken to read it I get a lot of ghosting from the book cover. It's really irritating.

05-04-2015, 09:49 AM	#155
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,537 Karma: 78910202 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	its quite normal for desktop to upgrade and eReader not too upgrade.

05-04-2015, 11:53 AM	#159
aceflor Wizard Posts: 3,472 Karma: 48036360 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: where the sun lives, or so they say Device: Pocketbook Era, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Scribe	So, bottom line.. I am on 3.12.1 with my Aura, and 3.13 on my H2O. I read epubs. Should I upgrade both, one (and then which one) or none ?

05-04-2015, 02:58 PM	#160
Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,574 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	I've never bothered with the browser before, but wow, it's pretty awful hehe. It does a double flash after touching anywhere, it doesn't remember login info, but it does work to at least download a book from DropBox. That's the only reason I tested it, to be sure my fail safe works in case I'm ever out and the reader locks up and I have to do a reset so I could go back to reading. I ended up creating a new much shorter email address just for DropBox and a pretty insecure short password (something I never do) just to make it more bearable to log in when needed. It's odd that the games are still there for the Glo with the 3.15.0 firmware, just not on the Glo HD. That almost makes me think they will add them to the Glo HD possibly in the future? I don't care either way, I never play the games, same like I never use the browser... I just read.

05-04-2015, 03:30 PM	#162
Namenlos Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2014 Device: Kobo Mini	Has anyone tested this on the Kobo Mini? I don't have a µsd cardreader right now, so I don't want to try it out without a confirmation.

05-04-2015, 05:12 PM	#164
arspr Dead account. Bye Posts: 587 Karma: 668244 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	Thanks for your explanation jackie_w. (I don't use the kepub converter but just Kobo Touch Extended driver and its conversion on-the-fly so I didn't know about it). I've re-checked howyoudoin's book and in fact it sometimes uses font-family: Sans-Serif; in certain parts. But nevertheless I don't get the double refresh... (Kobo and its mysteries...)

05-04-2015, 08:10 PM	#165
fdant Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kobo Glo	There's two things on this update that really annoys me: 1. a subtle flickering on the frontlight (almost) everytime I long press a word. It is only noticeable if the percentage is set around 20% or low, but I always read at 1%. 2. when I highlight a word, the menu still lingers on the screen for almost 3 seconds. Besides that, I think they improved a lot the selection handles: it's much more easy to rearrange them.