Firmware 3.15 discussion thread - Page 9

howyoudoin · 05-02-2015, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@howyoudoin: Well, if it's set to refresh every page, it'll indeed refresh every page, that includes chapter breaks, or am I missing something? ^^

I mean, previously, on 3.13.1, it would refresh every page once. Now on 3.15, what it's doing is refreshing the first page of a new chapter twice. It refreshes once to a nice page with dark text that I love (like previously), and a split second later it refreshes it again to make it less darker text and now I want to throw the ereader against a wall

NiLuJe · 05-02-2015, 11:58 AM

@howyoudoin: Huh. Haven't seen that, although that's not my usual config, so that was only a quick test

. When testing in 1-page mode, I did on the other hand sometimes have to double-tap to actually change page on a chapter break, which resembles what you're describing, only not automatic

.

Nick_1964 · 05-02-2015, 11:59 AM

Not attacking anyone, but doesn't the betatesters saw the ghosting problem increasing, or does Kobo changed something at the end that wasn't tested ?
I mean, a lot of complains come from people about this ghosting issue, does the beta crew noticed it,but Kobo desides to ignore them ?
From about 3.11 the ghosting get worse and worse, how much value will a Glo HD have,if it is bothered by the ghosting so much ?

PeterT · 05-02-2015, 12:18 PM

The external testers tend not to see a build until its just about to be released these days.

Nick_1964 · 05-02-2015, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

The external testers tend not to see a build until its just about to be released these days.

I had the idea,what in mine software testing period whas common, that they release a beta, people test,comes with rapports and errors,the errors are fixed, a new beta is released and if there are no errors left (noticeable) they bring it as a release, but that is not how it works ??

PeterT · 05-02-2015, 12:32 PM

Not really with Kobo these days. They might do that with their internal testers but the externals tend not to see many builds.

arspr · 05-02-2015, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howyoudoin

I mean, previously, on 3.13.1, it would refresh every page once. Now on 3.15, what it's doing is refreshing the first page of a new chapter twice. It refreshes once to a nice page with dark text that I love (like previously), and a split second later it refreshes it again to make it less darker text and now I want to throw the ereader against a wall

I think that has nothing to do with FWs. The double refresh on new chapter loading happens when your new chapter uses embedded fonts. Check its code/contents in Calibre Editor and/or use different books to test.

MarkWilliams · 05-02-2015, 02:13 PM

I've installed the 3.15 firmware on my Kobo Touch N905C. It's working fine apart from one oddity. If I go to my library and then select a book from there, when I press the home button, it returns my to the library. Subsequent presses of the home button also take me back to the library, with no evident way to get back to the tiled home screen.

I can see the new house button in the top left corner, but that acts the same way as the physical home button.

robko · 05-02-2015, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howyoudoin

Thanks for the explanation, NiLuJe.

Another major annoyance I've noticed is the automatic refresh of the first page of a new chapter. The automatic refresh makes the page less dark. It was fine the first time the device drew the page - why refresh it unnecessarily?!?! I wish the device were a human so I could smack it on it's head when it does this.

My experience is that this is a book related issue (or at least it manifests in a few some books but not most). I haven't delved into arspr's suggestion to see if that's the reason (only tested a number of different true kepubs).

howyoudoin · 05-02-2015, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robko

My experience is that this is a book related issue (or at least it manifests in a few some books but not most). I haven't delved into arspr's suggestion to see if that's the reason (only tested a number of different true kepubs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@howyoudoin: Huh. Haven't seen that, although that's not my usual config, so that was only a quick test

. When testing in 1-page mode, I did on the other hand sometimes have to double-tap to actually change page on a chapter break, which resembles what you're describing, only not automatic

.

I tried three of the books I'm currently reading, and this problem occured only on this one book.

But then I got frustrated with the weird semi-refreshing after looking up a word in the dictionary, and I was pretty sure the new chapter double refresh did not occur in that book on the previous firmware, so I reverted to 3.13.1 per this thread.

The downgrade on my H2O seems to be successful and all the annoying partial refreshes and double refreshes have now vanished.

cramoisi · 05-02-2015, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howyoudoin

I tried three of the books I'm currently reading, and this problem occured only on this one book.

But then I got frustrated with the weird semi-refreshing after looking up a word in the dictionary, and I was pretty sure the new chapter double refresh did not occur in that book on the previous firmware, so I reverted to 3.13.1 per this thread.

The downgrade on my H2O seems to be successful and all the annoying partial refreshes and double refreshes have now vanished.

Glad to heard that !

davidfor · 05-02-2015, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWilliams

I've installed the 3.15 firmware on my Kobo Touch N905C. It's working fine apart from one oddity. If I go to my library and then select a book from there, when I press the home button, it returns my to the library. Subsequent presses of the home button also take me back to the library, with no evident way to get back to the tiled home screen.

I can see the new house button in the top left corner, but that acts the same way as the physical home button.

I have 3.15.0 on my N905 Touch and haven't seen that problem. But, if it isn't working on an N905C, it might explain why Kobo haven't released to this to the Touch yet. Other than the home icon showing in other places, what changes are you seeing in the UI?

arspr · 05-03-2015, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howyoudoin

I tried three of the books I'm currently reading, and this problem occured only on this one book.

... because only that book has embedded fonts...

Are you sure you don't get that double refresh on 3.13.1? Cos I do have lots of books where I got them.

odamizu · 05-03-2015, 03:57 AM

Do Kobos ask before updating, or are updates forced on you? If they are forced, is there a way to block updates other than keeping WiFi off? Thanks.

GERGE · 05-03-2015, 04:34 AM

Patch can block them, I have been using it for ages now.

05-02-2015, 02:13 PM	#128
MarkWilliams Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2015 Device: Kobo Touch	Home button doesn't work I've installed the 3.15 firmware on my Kobo Touch N905C. It's working fine apart from one oddity. If I go to my library and then select a book from there, when I press the home button, it returns my to the library. Subsequent presses of the home button also take me back to the library, with no evident way to get back to the tiled home screen. I can see the new house button in the top left corner, but that acts the same way as the physical home button.

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05-02-2015, 11:58 AM	#122
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@howyoudoin: Huh. Haven't seen that, although that's not my usual config, so that was only a quick test . When testing in 1-page mode, I did on the other hand sometimes have to double-tap to actually change page on a chapter break, which resembles what you're describing, only not automatic .

05-02-2015, 11:59 AM	#123
Nick_1964 Bookworm Posts: 975 Karma: 768585 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Netherlands Device: Sony prs-650, Kobo Glo HD (2x), Kobo Glo	Not attacking anyone, but doesn't the betatesters saw the ghosting problem increasing, or does Kobo changed something at the end that wasn't tested ? I mean, a lot of complains come from people about this ghosting issue, does the beta crew noticed it,but Kobo desides to ignore them ? From about 3.11 the ghosting get worse and worse, how much value will a Glo HD have,if it is bothered by the ghosting so much ?

05-02-2015, 12:18 PM	#124
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,698 Karma: 79983758 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	The external testers tend not to see a build until its just about to be released these days.

05-02-2015, 12:32 PM	#126
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,698 Karma: 79983758 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	Not really with Kobo these days. They might do that with their internal testers but the externals tend not to see many builds.

05-03-2015, 03:57 AM	#134
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,848 Karma: 8006346 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	Do Kobos ask before updating, or are updates forced on you? If they are forced, is there a way to block updates other than keeping WiFi off? Thanks.

05-03-2015, 04:34 AM	#135
GERGE Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 5797160 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Istanbul Device: Kobo Libra	Patch can block them, I have been using it for ages now.