Easiest one to create "folders" in...??

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've seen Pocketbook and Onyx devices sold in shops here in the UK.

What stores in the UK stock them?

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Rizla

What stores in the UK stock them?

I've seen them in the past in Waterstones. I don't know if they still sell them.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Rizla

Kobo collections are not as good as folder organization. I used a similar "tag" system on a Sony, and I have no desire to go back.

Is it true that you have to jailbreak Kindles to use Calibre to add collections? I find that hard to believe. That would mean you couldn't use it on the new PW2s and the Voyage.

Is there any specific reason why it must be otherwise? I do agree it is very disappointing.

Correct -- syncing collections with calibre requires jailbreaking, which is no longer possible on the PW2 and never possible on the KV/KT2.
(It does, however, work if you went to the effort of jailbreaking over a serial port.)

Personally, I find Collections far more enriching than folder structure. I can file books in multiple collections, for example.

And since I am on fw<=5.4.0 I can also have nested, hierarchical collections. Beat that.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Rizla

Is it true that you have to jailbreak Kindles to use Calibre to add collections? I find that hard to believe. That would mean you couldn't use it on the new PW2s and the Voyage.

Yes. The reason being that when, in the past, the collections file was in the public partition, people were constantly accidentally deleting it and losing all their collections. At one time it was probably the most commonly asked question on the Kindle forum here at MR. So to stop people doing that, Amazon moved the collections data file into the system partition, and made it inaccessible to the USB-mounted drive. The issue of third-party tools wanting to create collections was not terribly high on Amazon's list of priorities, I'd guess.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by cybmole

& how many of those have you met ?

anyway - yes it looks excellent until you read the more damning reviews,

guy puts it into landscape mode, no way back - no factory reset option , no refund....

and resolution is suprisingly low for a large screen device.

Here on MobileRead? A lot -- they even have their own subforums.
In the *real world*? Heck, I don't even know a lot of people who read, let alone have interest in buying ereaders, let alone have interest in buying ereader-tablets.

Keep in mind -- they know what they are getting, and just because one or two people have complaints, doesn't mean everyone does. The most vocal people are always the people with problems.
Apparently it is still popular enough for the companies in question to keep coming out with new models.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've seen them in the past in Waterstones. I don't know if they still sell them.

Wow. I had no idea.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Rizla

Wow. I had no idea.

Looking at the Waterstones website, it looks as if they only sell Kindles now. Not so long ago they sold a whole range of different reading devices.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Yes. The reason being that when, in the past, the collections file was in the public partition, people were constantly accidentally deleting it and losing all their collections. At one time it was probably the most commonly asked question on the Kindle forum here at MR. So to stop people doing that, Amazon moved the collections data file into the system partition, and made it inaccessible to the USB-mounted drive. The issue of third-party tools wanting to create collections was not terribly high on Amazon's list of priorities, I'd guess.

So how do Kindle owners organize non-Amazon purchased content?

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by cybmole

I concede that amazon does have an in stock e-ink device that does what you both say. But £249 for e-ink would not tempt me much
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Onyx-M96-Uni...ords=Onyx+Boox

You can get a Boyue on bangood for much less.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Rizla

So how do Kindle owners organize non-Amazon purchased content?

Personally I use a Calibre plugboard, but for those who wish to use collections, you do your collection management on the Kindle. Or you can email your books to Amazon and use "Cloud" collections.

[kacir]

Originally Posted by cybmole

All dedicated e-readers are designed to insulate you from actual files , folders... and instead give you only a meta view of "content|" i.e. of books + authors + titles + ..... they hide the actual data from you just like a sat nav hides its internal storage of its maps.

Not true.
There quite a few devices that let you browse hierarchical directories.
As previous posters said, Onyx, PocketBook and others work that way. There are more but I have personal experience with those two.
Also my Nook Simple Touch did support folders after rooting.
All Android based devices support directories.

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by kacir

All Android based devices support directories.

Not strictly true. I don't believe my Sony PRST1 (unrooted) was able to browse a directory tree.

[kacir]

Originally Posted by cybmole

Where would one buy those lesser name devices? Online only ? Some countries only ?.

Here in Europe you simply walk into a store that sells electronics and buy them.
Or order them from numerous Internet stores.

PocketBook, for example, left USA market because they were unable to compete price-wise with Amazon Kindle.

Originally Posted by cybmole

kobo, sony, kindle.. impose their own library views and are locked down so that no non-geek can add/change behavior. those 3 make up 90+% of the e-reader market.

Market where?

[kacir]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

Not strictly true. I don't believe my Sony PRST1 (unrooted) was able to browse a directory tree.

Right.
And later versions of Sony firmware weren't ever rooted.

[markom]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

Not strictly true. I don't believe my Sony PRST1 (unrooted) was able to browse a directory tree.

Yep, not supported.

We can see all the directories when connected to PC and we can move directories and subdirectories from PC to Sony or vice versa, but the books shall be shown in Sony listed as within one directory.

An info about book's directory (a complete path) is visible only by selecting the book and clicking on info.