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Old 04-10-2015, 06:43 PM   #226
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I need a good slap up the side of the head because I stupidly didn't turn off the sound when watched this (and I should know better

It boggles the mind that these guys say (more than once) that the font and margin selection on the Kobo is too complicated and Kobo should make it easier. OMG, if you can't figure that you should be prohibited by law from owning, let alone reviewing an e-reader. . Maybe that's why, although they talk about setting them to roughly the same settings, the text size/spacing/margins at the start are no where near the same.

If you want to visually compare the devices, this will give you a decent side by side comparison, just save yourself the grief and mute it.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:13 PM   #227
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If you haven't done it yet, you should upgrade to FW 3.13.1. Kobo has increased the available number of font size steps in it. Now it's just impossible not finding a fully convenient font size, no matter how picky you are about it. (In fact, for me this is THE REASON to perform this upgrade, not the stats...)
I'm fine with the Kobo choices, it's the Kindle Voyage with the same old eight sizes that I have a problem with.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:55 PM   #228
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That's the bottom-line. Amazon will have to drop the price of the Voyage.
Can they really do this when the Voyage is not even a year-old? I don't think Amazon will succumb to this. Voyage is Amazon's premium product. Even if they do slash the price off, they can't lessen it to Glo HD level without sacrificing the Paperwhite's price too.

What I can see here is that Amazon will retain Voyage as their premium product (and its price) and maybe respond this year by making the Paperwhite 300 PPI as well and, who knows what "surprise" we'll get with 2nd Gen Voyage.

I am not sure if this is applicable (maybe I am stupid by even doing this comparison) but I see Amazon as Apple in the e-reader market. If we see the trend, iPhone's specs is always behind nowadays compared to other smartphone makers, but they can still sell their products at a higher price. I guess, it is because of iOS. Same with Amazon. Their greatest shield will still be their ecosystem.

Also, we all agree that the Kobo eBooks is much more expensive that Amazon's. So, if you buy books regularly, Kobo will get back the "discount" you get from Glo HD in the long run.

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Old 04-10-2015, 09:13 PM   #229
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^^^ I don't think Amazon cares what kobo does. They are in an even more dominant position in ebooks than Apple is on mobile.
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Old 04-10-2015, 09:56 PM   #230
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^^^ I don't think Amazon cares what kobo does. They are in an even more dominant position in ebooks than Apple is on mobile.
That may be true, but when the 1st Kobo came out (and it was a far cry from being anything like equivalent to the current generation of Kindle at the time), Kindle pricing (and others) pricing dropped pretty quickly because Kobo was 1/2 the price. Price isn't everything, but it can speak loudly, especially with devices that a lot of people are going to see as equal. Yes I know there are differences, but to be honest, for me none of the features that Kindle has would entice me to buy it over a Kobo even at equal pricing. Others have different wants and will be willing to pay more or less depending on their wants. And there were a lot of people that baulked at the price of a Voyage when it came out and didn't buy on that basis alone.
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:12 PM   #231
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That may be true, but when the 1st Kobo came out (and it was a far cry from being anything like equivalent to the current generation of Kindle at the time), Kindle pricing (and others) pricing dropped pretty quickly because Kobo was 1/2 the price. Price isn't everything, but it can speak loudly, especially with devices that a lot of people are going to see as equal. Yes I know there are differences, but to be honest, for me none of the features that Kindle has would entice me to buy it over a Kobo even at equal pricing. Others have different wants and will be willing to pay more or less depending on their wants. And there were a lot of people that baulked at the price of a Voyage when it came out and didn't buy on that basis alone.
I think Kobo pricing only affects the segment of Kindle's market that is sufficiently technically proficient that they can transfer/convert their existing collection from one to the other (and can be bothered doing so), or have no interest in re-reading previously-bought books (so will happily jettison them in jumping to another brand of eReader).

I would suspect that this market segment is sufficiently small, and sufficiently fickle, that Amazon will not consider it profitable to target them.

The vast majority of those who "baulked at the price of a Voyage" are likely to simply stay with the PW2, rather than move to Kobo simply for increased resolution.
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:35 PM   #232
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A little off topic, but at what point does dpi on a 6 inch eReader become so negligible that it simply ceases to matter as it pertains to basic reading - not displaying pictures?

Will the next-gen go beyond 300 dpi? Does it need to?
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Old 04-11-2015, 01:17 AM   #233
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Old 04-11-2015, 01:47 AM   #234
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Try the attached fonts (otf and ttf). The TypeGenius advanced font options might work with the TTF flavor of the font.
Okay, thanks. I've got them and will try them out, but I'm actually quite happy with the Kindle Constantia on the Kobo, even without the advanced settings. But I'll report back one way or the other.

Again, thanks.

EDIT: Both the OTF and TTF fonts worked, though neither gave me the ability to use the Advanced Settings. I ended up keeping the Kindle one -- its sizes were a bit different and fit my usage better. I also updated to newest firmware 1.13.1 (I believe) and it does seem to give me a better selection of sizes. It also seemed to darken my fonts slightly -- but it may be my imagination, not sure. When I first installed the the update, it made my Constantia font bold -- ugly -- but I followed the advice of others here and just erased the Bold fonts. Funny it didn't work that way in 1.12.1.

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Old 04-11-2015, 01:49 AM   #235
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I don't understand why Kobo would not continue the flush screen like on the Aura. No more dust and crumbs under the bezel. That and the lack of card slot are dealbreakers.
I'm guessing the technology is more expensive and that they wanted to match the old Glo's price point.
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Old 04-11-2015, 01:59 AM   #236
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I'm guessing the technology is more expensive and that they wanted to match the old Glo's price point.
There are some of us though who absolutely hate the flush screen and the capacitive touch that goes with it. They've simply given us the choices we want. There's capacitive flat screens for the messy people, and infrared recessed for the not messy people .

Ok ok, so messy or not has nothing to do with it, but for various reasons many of us actually do not like the flat screen or the capacitive touch. I've read many posts where Aura owners have said the text is not as sharp as on the Glo, that the capacitive layer probably causes it, plus the odd crosshatch scratches visible on many of the capacitive screens. When the Aura came out and I thought that's the direction that Kobo is going toward now, I bought 2 more Glos so I wouldn't have to worry about nothing but capacitive touch being available. There's just no way I'd buy a capacitive touch ereader for myself.

Choices that make everyone happy is always the best alternative, and I'm hoping that is why Kobo upgraded the Glo and kept its infrared touch and it's not just a price consideration.
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:11 AM   #237
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Am I the only Kobo fan who can't stand the IR touch? It never worked on my Kobo mini, my late Aura was so much better.
I don't mind IR on my Kindles, Nooks or Sony, but it seems quite a bit less responsive on my Glo. I find myself double and triple tapping on the Glo. Not quite sure why it would be different.
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:17 AM   #238
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You can find patching instructions in the Kobo Developer's Corner, and enable Advanced Settings for side loaded fonts. Many things in the patch are useful.
Thanks. I've avoided that because 1) I'm lazy and 2) By reading the instructions it seems like there are a lot of options I would have to either turn on or off and -- and this point -- I don't think I know enough about the Kobo to make wise decisions. But I'll study it a little more.
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Won't that depend on how many people are convinced that it's the other Voyage features that make it premium - the page buttons, the auto-adjusting light level and that old favourite - the Amazon eco-system.
And I think it has the flat screen (like the Aura) and capacitive touch like the Aura. But I agree, it's still a good price for the screen. I'm pretty sure that Kindle will sooner (rather than later) lower the price of the Voyage.
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I don't think the Glo HD will hurt Amazon that much. Their Eco system keeps them streets ahead plus the average Amazon customer won't know how to get their Amazon ebooks onto Kobo. I've no doubt it's a good device, and if anything every happens to my old Nook Glow then I might be tempted as its replacement. For me the Eco system is worth it for Amazon, whilst I have a Kobo H20 which I will use near water I read mainly on my Voyage and my HDX using Whispersync to keep in sync. Kobo just doesn't have what I need for a permanent switch.
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