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In our country they use social DRM,they now started at court with a new idea "epub is software, and you are entitled to sell the software and licence,when you destroy your own copy."
There is a new bookshop,you can buy your epub and it is placed on your "digital bookshelf" after reading it, you have to destroy your own copy (no one can verify you do) and you can place your book on the market of the bookshop as second hand. If anyone buys it, the watermark is removed and replaced by a fresh one,and then is removed from your bookshelf. So by example, I buy a book for €10 and after finishing I can sell it for a price that I can define myself. When it is sold, I can't no longer access the copy, and 1,50 commission is transferred to the bookshop. When I look for a title, I can see the new one, and the "second hand one". The publishers are still looking for a way to forbid it,but until now it is legal. You can only sell the books,you buyed from that bookshop. So I buy the new title for €10,- after finish reading it, i can sell it by example for €6,50 Minus 1,50 commission I get €5 for the book, so paid €5,- in total. The new owner again can sell it in the same bookshop,and again pays the 1,50 commission. I don't think it is allowed by this forum to give the name of the bookshop. |
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The difficulty I see with this is the requirement that you get rid of your original. Without verification, that's an open invitation to piracy. How do you remove it from your account at the bookstore you bought it from? Many bookstores offer no facility for doing that. How do you ensure that it's removed from every backup you've ever made? If you make backups on DVD, that would involve physically destroying all your backups. If you make Cloud backups, how can you ensure that it's removed from all the backups that the Cloud service provider has made? The whole thing seems unworkable. |
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It is not possible for a buyer to sell the book twice on the store. Only a new buyer can sell it again. The european court used the UsesSoft/Oracle arrest 2012 where it is found legal to sell the licence of software, like you have a secondhand PC with software installed on it like windows, once registered and activated,it is legal to sell the pc,with the software installed on it. Crucial,the publishers say the ebook is a book, the shop owner says, it is not a book,it is software.. Last edited by Nick_1964; 04-09-2015 at 01:02 PM. |
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![]() Of course such an app might unfairly penalise true book lovers that take good care of their books ... so maybe it could use the accelerometer and other features of e-reading devices to judge whether you are a person that takes care of your books or not, and alter it's foxing algorithm accordingly. I wonder if I should patent the idea. ![]() |
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And the first thing I did with the Harry Potter books was comment out the UUID-style visible watermark and replace it with my name. There are many people who would pay good money for ebooks with a dedication/author signature rather than the ugly watermark HP uses. Furthermore, if you don't like the watermark because it was visibly ugly I don't blame you -- but do note, it is still watermarked; the HP watermark is many-tentacled like an octopus, and pervades most aspects of the code. CSS and filenames are the first things you see when you open it in the editor, and there are oh-so-many-ways to hide information in images, and those are just the ways I thought of off the top of my head. Congratulations, you are every vendor's favorite customer -- one too naïve or halfhearted to do anything but fall for the distraction. |
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A watermark that isn't visible would annoy me less. Because i wouldn't see it when reading. |
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They do have a form of fair use in the UK, which is more than they do in other places. It just works differently.
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When talking about locks in relation to DRM we are only speaking about a specific form of DRM, we're in agreement on that. |
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I quite understand ugly watermarks being annoying, but it isn't a moral issue... |
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