ePUB weight - Page 4

PeterT · 03-01-2015, 08:29 PM

Your English is better than most of our French (and I for one went to High School in Montreal).

Freeshadow · 03-01-2015, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dickloraine

personal preference

Save your time pal.

The day wolfie will finally get it, that something like a personal preference exists and that it might differ from his ex cathedra expressed opinion about how the world shall be, is the same day pigs 'll fly over the frozen pits of hell.
I wish I had an € for every time he posts something fitting the pattern:
"I don't like foo, so it is wrong/bad/stupid"

Would be quite wealthy now.

BryanK · 03-02-2015, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saguay

Do you know how I can add security to block any modification of this ePub ?

I believe you are asking how to prevent the ereader or user settings from overriding your CSS. As far as I know, the only way to do this is to tag everything as !important, but this can get messy very quickly.

If this is what you're looking for, hopefully somebody more knowledgeable than I am will offer other suggestions.

saguay · 03-02-2015, 12:46 PM

What is this message.

eschwartz · 03-02-2015, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saguay

What is this message.

What message?

saguay · 03-02-2015, 06:11 PM

This one :

Save your time pal.

The day wolfie will finally get it, that something like a personal preference exists and that it might differ from his ex cathedra expressed opinion about how the world shall be, is the same day pigs 'll fly over the frozen pits of hell.
I wish I had an € for every time he posts something fitting the pattern:
"I don't like foo, so it is wrong/bad/stupid"

eschwartz · 03-02-2015, 06:19 PM

Some people are more than usually convince that their opinions are more qualified, and argumentation results. Feel free to ignore it, it doesn't particularly help you with your book.

saguay · 03-02-2015, 06:34 PM

Thank you.

JSWolf · 03-02-2015, 07:08 PM

What's not done with most eBooks these days is left justify, and no indents. I've seen a shift recently for a lot of eBooks to use small paragraph space that's less then 1em.

The thing is, you want your eBook to look good. Think about this, if you ever saw a paper book with wide paragraph spaces and no indents, and left justified, would you like the way it looks?

eschwartz · 03-02-2015, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What's not done with most eBooks these days is left justify, and no indents. I've seen a shift recently for a lot of eBooks to use small paragraph space that's less then 1em.

The thing is, you want your eBook to look good. Think about this, if you ever saw a paper book with wide paragraph spaces and no indents, and left justified, would you like the way it looks?

I would guess not, since his book doesn't look like that.

Here is his link, see for yourself: http://manuscritdepot.com/doc-transf..._malo_011.epub

saguay · 03-02-2015, 07:31 PM

Ok, certain aspects of my ePUB project are close to discussions. The text is justified. There is a space at the beginning of each paragraph. And finaly, I leave to the reader the choice between a version with space between paragrahs and a version without space between paragraphs. I will let you know how popular are both version.

QUESTION : my son let me know that the cover of my ePUB do not appear full screen on his cell phone. What can I do ?

manuscritdepot.com/doc-transfert/epub_jocelyn_malo_01.epub

manuscritdepot.com/doc-transfert/epub_jocelyn_malo_011.epub

JSWolf · 03-02-2015, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saguay

QUESTION : my son let me know that the cover of my ePUB do not appear full screen on his cell phone. What can I do ?

Both versions have covers that are full screen when using ADE. It's most likely a flaw with the app he is using on his cell phone. What app and under what OS?

DoctorOhh · 03-02-2015, 09:27 PM

@JSWolf I'm curious. What is the advantage of including the line, text-align: justify;

p {
text-indent: 1em;
text-align: justify;
font-size: 1.15em;
font-family: Arial;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0.00em;
}

in the css for paragraphs as opposed to leaving the line out completely

p {
text-indent: 1em;
font-size: 1.15em;
font-family: Arial;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0.00em;
}

and allowing each device to format the paragraphs.

For the same reason why include the font-family line?

Both of these lines (line text-align: justify and font-family: Arial) cause me to edit or convert the epub before adding them to my library.

JSWolf · 03-02-2015, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

@JSWolf I'm curious. What is the advantage of including the line, text-align: justify;

p {
text-indent: 1em;
text-align: justify;
font-size: 1.15em;
font-family: Arial;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0.00em;
}

in the css for paragraphs as opposed to leaving the line out completely

p {
text-indent: 1em;
font-size: 1.15em;
font-family: Arial;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0.00em;
}

and allowing each device to format the paragraphs.

For the same reason why include the font-family line?

Both of these lines (line text-align: justify and font-family: Arial) cause me to edit or convert the epub before adding them to my library.

I put the justify in the body style. As for the font-family, I would not have put it in unless it goes with an embedded font. The font-size, I would dump as well. Also, the 0.00em should be just 0. The text-indent also is too small. I use 1.2em.

Code:

body {
oeb-column-number: 1;
widows: 1;
orphans: 1;
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
text-align: justify
}
p {
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0;
text-indent: 1.2em
}

This is code I use.

Arios · 03-02-2015, 10:35 PM

@saguay

Your project (the foundation Fleur de Lys) is a very interesting initiative.

So kudos for that.

Let's go back to the book of Jocelyn Malo.

There are still some problems that appear when the epub is read with an eReader (my Sony PRS-T1 for example). Two are evident: 1) the text alongside the image (in Au sujet de l’auteur) is shortened and 2) cadatrins dashes should be linked with a non-breaking spaces to prevent empty spaces in the first line, something like: "— Bien." instead of "— Bien."

Finally, I think the paragraph with drop cap looks better with no indentation. <p class="noindent"> before <span class="lettrine"> and in the CSS:

Code:

.noindent {
text-indent: 0;
}

Also, there may be usefull information here: http://fr.flossmanuals.net/creer-un-epub/introduction/ if you don't know this resource and of course a lot more here on MobileRead.

Good luck!

PS Totally agree with you DoctorOhh!

03-02-2015, 10:35 PM	#60
Arios A curiosus lector! Posts: 463 Karma: 2015140 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch	@saguay Your project (the foundation Fleur de Lys) is a very interesting initiative. So kudos for that. Let's go back to the book of Jocelyn Malo. There are still some problems that appear when the epub is read with an eReader (my Sony PRS-T1 for example). Two are evident: 1) the text alongside the image (in Au sujet de l’auteur) is shortened and 2) cadatrins dashes should be linked with a non-breaking spaces to prevent empty spaces in the first line, something like: "— Bien." instead of "— Bien." Finally, I think the paragraph with drop cap looks better with no indentation. <p class="noindent"> before <span class="lettrine"> and in the CSS: Code: .noindent { text-indent: 0; } Also, there may be usefull information here: http://fr.flossmanuals.net/creer-un-epub/introduction/ if you don't know this resource and of course a lot more here on MobileRead. Good luck! PS Totally agree with you DoctorOhh!

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03-01-2015, 08:29 PM	#46
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,510 Karma: 78910202 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	Your English is better than most of our French (and I for one went to High School in Montreal).

03-02-2015, 12:46 PM	#49
saguay Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: SIGIL	What is this message.

03-02-2015, 06:11 PM	#51
saguay Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: SIGIL	This one : Save your time pal. The day wolfie will finally get it, that something like a personal preference exists and that it might differ from his ex cathedra expressed opinion about how the world shall be, is the same day pigs 'll fly over the frozen pits of hell. I wish I had an € for every time he posts something fitting the pattern: "I don't like foo, so it is wrong/bad/stupid"

03-02-2015, 06:19 PM	#52
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Some people are more than usually convince that their opinions are more qualified, and argumentation results. Feel free to ignore it, it doesn't particularly help you with your book.

03-02-2015, 06:34 PM	#53
saguay Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: SIGIL	Thank you.

03-02-2015, 07:08 PM	#54
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,745 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What's not done with most eBooks these days is left justify, and no indents. I've seen a shift recently for a lot of eBooks to use small paragraph space that's less then 1em. The thing is, you want your eBook to look good. Think about this, if you ever saw a paper book with wide paragraph spaces and no indents, and left justified, would you like the way it looks?

03-02-2015, 07:31 PM	#56
saguay Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: SIGIL	Ok, certain aspects of my ePUB project are close to discussions. The text is justified. There is a space at the beginning of each paragraph. And finaly, I leave to the reader the choice between a version with space between paragrahs and a version without space between paragraphs. I will let you know how popular are both version. QUESTION : my son let me know that the cover of my ePUB do not appear full screen on his cell phone. What can I do ? manuscritdepot.com/doc-transfert/epub_jocelyn_malo_01.epub manuscritdepot.com/doc-transfert/epub_jocelyn_malo_011.epub

03-02-2015, 09:27 PM	#58
DoctorOhh US Navy, Retired Posts: 9,896 Karma: 13806776 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Carolina Device: Icarus Illumina XL HD, Kindle PaperWhite SE 11th Gen	@JSWolf I'm curious. What is the advantage of including the line, text-align: justify; p { text-indent: 1em; text-align: justify; font-size: 1.15em; font-family: Arial; margin-left: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0.00em; } in the css for paragraphs as opposed to leaving the line out completely p { text-indent: 1em; font-size: 1.15em; font-family: Arial; margin-left: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0.00em; } and allowing each device to format the paragraphs. For the same reason why include the font-family line? Both of these lines (line text-align: justify and font-family: Arial) cause me to edit or convert the epub before adding them to my library.