My Iliad experience - Page 6

kacir · 06-26-2006, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

@ali: .... The good ones will show up in about two years. Then i will ditch the iLiad and get the iLiad 2.0 or a device from Plasticlogic or the reading design study from philips.

Great. So in two years I sell my Cassiopeia A-20 to a museum and get one of the first iliads for peanuts ;-)

tribble · 06-26-2006, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Great. So in two years I sell my Cassiopeia A-20 to a museum and get one of the first iliads for peanuts ;-)

I let you know, when i put it on ebay

Henrycat · 06-26-2006, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameboy70

The viewers look like they still need some work. I'd prefer at least a little whitespace at the margins. Hopefully, that's a parameter that can be user configured.

Thanks for the videos, Henricat!

The Honor book is a pdf i made. I'm used to little white space since the Librie, so i make them with just 1 cm for the top, left and right, and enough space for the menu in the bottom.

Obviously in the pdf viewer, you can just create the pdf with the white space you want

tribble · 06-26-2006, 05:05 AM

Hey Henrycat! Your in the quarter finals

Damn this is soooo OT.

When did you receive your last OS update? When is the next one due? Any noticable change in battery life? BTW, is there a way to check the battery status?

Thanks
Falk

CommanderROR · 06-26-2006, 05:30 AM

@Henrycat

Just a brief reminder...you wanted to test something for me...^^
It's no hurry...just so you don't forget altogether.

Henrycat · 06-26-2006, 09:19 AM

Answers

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

@Henrycat

Just a brief reminder...you wanted to test something for me...^^
It's no hurry...just so you don't forget altogether.

You forgot the rename the txt to htm, and i didn't notice it till i was taking the pictures. Since it is the same viewer it should be similar for both files

I'm also considering making another pdf that doesn't have the line breaks. Just clean the txt and convert it to pdf, dont want to give wrong impressions

I should do the pictures this afternoon and up them tomorrow.

Edit: pdf and htm open ok, although the pdf has small letters...

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

Hey Henrycat! Your in the quarter finals

Damn this is soooo OT.

When did you receive your last OS update? When is the next one due? Any noticable change in battery life? BTW, is there a way to check the battery status?

Thanks
Falk

The new update should be released this week, i'm waiting for Alex to tell when it's online.

Right now theres no way to see battery life, but Alex told me some time ago that they have added an indicator to the new update (not the one of this week tough

)

CommanderROR · 06-26-2006, 09:45 AM

Thanks Henrycat!

I'm not sure what you mean by the "haven't renamed to .htm"?
I just checked and there are three files on my webspace, always the same content only with different file-formats. PDF is the file as I got it...good or bad, that's the way it was offered on the website. Then I used PDF-to-HTML and PDF-to-TXT to convert it.
I have used a different software to do it again and found the results to be a lot better for the .txt but just as problematic for the html (hard line breaks).
I uploaded the screenshots of the .txt and the html as displayed by the Hanlin V8 and just wanted to compare how they llok on the Iliad.

Henrycat · 06-26-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

Thanks Henrycat!

I'm not sure what you mean by the "haven't renamed to .htm"?

I think i have mentioned before that txts are being handled by the normal htm viewer. But they need to be renamed to htm for the device to read them

tribble · 06-26-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henrycat

I think i have mentioned before that txts are being handled by the normal htm viewer. But they need to be renamed to htm for the device to read them

But you also mentioned, that this will be fixed with the next update

That tells us, there hasnt been an update so far.

Henrycat · 06-26-2006, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

But you also mentioned, that this will be fixed with the next update

That tells us, there hasnt been an update so far.

Like i said the new update shuld come out this week, but so far Alex hasn't told me anything yet.

firekat · 06-26-2006, 01:18 PM

Henrycat,

Thank you for all your work on supplying us with this information.

The videos answer all the questions of the sliding release date. This device is nowhere close to release unless the newspaper feed function works "seamlessly" and that certainly negates a lot of utilization. Even then all the functions that you show in a marketing perspective are in the "prototype" realm and are in no way ready for "primetime".

At close to $900.00 USD landed in the USA, this makes the iLiad a very expensive toy if the page turning, refresh rate, battery life is not improved - substantially. It would take in total a shorter time for me to start up my laptop, and navigate through my documents and manuals than it would be for me to use the iLiad. The whole purpose of using it would be convenience - very low start up times, document navigation & long battery life. By the videos shown here iRex still has a way to go. Hopefully the latest revision will be a marked improvement.

One question I do have (as hope springs eternal that this device will be improved) is there a table of contents, index, or bookmark listing available in PDF's? How can you navigate through documents to specific pages? I would be utilizing PDF's for reference and would need to jump to specific parts of the manuals efficiently & effectively without using the slider control or numerous page turns. Any possibility of a search function forthcoming?

I did think that the handwriting function appears to work well.

I am beginning to think that the e ink technology may not be up to the e reader task. I think that it will be relegated to signage and low refresh rate displays.

I am still holding out a lot of hope for this device. I have been mostly pessimistic about the iLiad, and this would be a product of iRex not being forthcoming or honest in their communication.

Overall I am optomistic that e ink could work, though I think that realization of that is still a way down the road.

Azania · 06-26-2006, 01:47 PM

I fear I have to agree with everything firekat says. Though I'm an eternal optimist what these videos show is a painfully slow experience. Even if the price were a fifth I would probably stop using it after a couple of days. Though the Nokia 770 has a much smaller screen, with FBReader, page turns are instantaneous and it will have to do for me until eInk technology matures a bit. My only hope is that Henrycat's videos show particularly unrepresentative files struggling with a particularly hobbled OS and/or application software. It is now up to iRex to release some footage to show us a "properly" functioning device. The delayed release date is indeed beginning to make sense!

CommanderROR · 06-26-2006, 04:18 PM

@Henrycat

Something I forgot...

Is the Battery of the Iliad user-replaceable? I already ordered so i'm chaught now, but it would be nice to know anyway...^^

tribble · 06-26-2006, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

Is the Battery of the Iliad user-replaceable? I already ordered so i'm chaught now, but it would be nice to know anyway...^^

No, its not. Thats one concern iRex noted somewhere, that they do not really know how to handle battery replacements.

The battery is a specially for the iLiad customized Li-Ion one, as far as i know.

CommanderROR · 06-26-2006, 04:34 PM

well...we'll jsut hope it doesn't break then...

Oh by the way tribble...did you read the line
"Products will be shipped from our Stockpoint in Dueren - Germany"?

I just checked and found that it's about 330km from where i'm sitting...time is calculated as about 3 hours...so if they actually have stock there anytime soon it at least won't take a long time to deliver to Wuerzburg...^^
The trouble is that my order numer is 470...and I have no idea how many they are expecting by June 30th...does anyone know that?

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06-26-2006, 05:05 AM	#79
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	Hey Henrycat! Your in the quarter finals Damn this is soooo OT. When did you receive your last OS update? When is the next one due? Any noticable change in battery life? BTW, is there a way to check the battery status? Thanks Falk

06-26-2006, 05:30 AM	#80
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@Henrycat Just a brief reminder...you wanted to test something for me...^^ It's no hurry...just so you don't forget altogether.

06-26-2006, 09:45 AM	#82
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	Thanks Henrycat! I'm not sure what you mean by the "haven't renamed to .htm"? I just checked and there are three files on my webspace, always the same content only with different file-formats. PDF is the file as I got it...good or bad, that's the way it was offered on the website. Then I used PDF-to-HTML and PDF-to-TXT to convert it. I have used a different software to do it again and found the results to be a lot better for the .txt but just as problematic for the html (hard line breaks). I uploaded the screenshots of the .txt and the html as displayed by the Hanlin V8 and just wanted to compare how they llok on the Iliad.

06-26-2006, 01:18 PM	#86
firekat Groupie Posts: 157 Karma: 314 Join Date: May 2006	Henrycat, Thank you for all your work on supplying us with this information. The videos answer all the questions of the sliding release date. This device is nowhere close to release unless the newspaper feed function works "seamlessly" and that certainly negates a lot of utilization. Even then all the functions that you show in a marketing perspective are in the "prototype" realm and are in no way ready for "primetime". At close to $900.00 USD landed in the USA, this makes the iLiad a very expensive toy if the page turning, refresh rate, battery life is not improved - substantially. It would take in total a shorter time for me to start up my laptop, and navigate through my documents and manuals than it would be for me to use the iLiad. The whole purpose of using it would be convenience - very low start up times, document navigation & long battery life. By the videos shown here iRex still has a way to go. Hopefully the latest revision will be a marked improvement. One question I do have (as hope springs eternal that this device will be improved) is there a table of contents, index, or bookmark listing available in PDF's? How can you navigate through documents to specific pages? I would be utilizing PDF's for reference and would need to jump to specific parts of the manuals efficiently & effectively without using the slider control or numerous page turns. Any possibility of a search function forthcoming? I did think that the handwriting function appears to work well. I am beginning to think that the e ink technology may not be up to the e reader task. I think that it will be relegated to signage and low refresh rate displays. I am still holding out a lot of hope for this device. I have been mostly pessimistic about the iLiad, and this would be a product of iRex not being forthcoming or honest in their communication. Overall I am optomistic that e ink could work, though I think that realization of that is still a way down the road.

06-26-2006, 01:47 PM	#87
Azania Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Palm E2; Nokia 770	I fear I have to agree with everything firekat says. Though I'm an eternal optimist what these videos show is a painfully slow experience. Even if the price were a fifth I would probably stop using it after a couple of days. Though the Nokia 770 has a much smaller screen, with FBReader, page turns are instantaneous and it will have to do for me until eInk technology matures a bit. My only hope is that Henrycat's videos show particularly unrepresentative files struggling with a particularly hobbled OS and/or application software. It is now up to iRex to release some footage to show us a "properly" functioning device. The delayed release date is indeed beginning to make sense!

06-26-2006, 04:18 PM	#88
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@Henrycat Something I forgot... Is the Battery of the Iliad user-replaceable? I already ordered so i'm chaught now, but it would be nice to know anyway...^^

06-26-2006, 04:34 PM	#90
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	well...we'll jsut hope it doesn't break then... Oh by the way tribble...did you read the line "Products will be shipped from our Stockpoint in Dueren - Germany"? I just checked and found that it's about 330km from where i'm sitting...time is calculated as about 3 hours...so if they actually have stock there anytime soon it at least won't take a long time to deliver to Wuerzburg...^^ The trouble is that my order numer is 470...and I have no idea how many they are expecting by June 30th...does anyone know that?