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The problem with the OP's stats is that they are only for adult fiction. How many adults read young adult fantasy and sci-fi? Hunger Games, Harry Potter...And then there are the movies. There seem to be more sci-fi movies than ever before.
I agree there's a lot of dross in the conventional male sci-fi area these days. I don't read it anymore since Bank's died. But sci-fi and fantasy has branched out of that area. |
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There are still fewer authors writing traditional SF than I'd like, but I've been finding more and more backlist titles that were previously out of print. However, the last year or so has been the first time that I've been able to find as many new fantasy novels as I care to read. While I don't really know how the market's been treating authors, for me as a reader, it's rapidly becoming an embarrassment of riches.
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That's what I was thinking. Those who used to read SF/Fantasy, have moved over to "Young Adult" "twinkly vampire" stuff. It's just a different classification, not really a different market. I would imagine -- eventually -- the "Twilight" stuff will fade out and so-called "real" SF will take its place again. Last time I was in a Barnes & Noble it looked like a whole big section was taken up with Twilight clones.
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Adult Fiction
Action/Adventure 2,619 2,239 -15% Fantasy. 8,615 7,526 -13% Occult/ Psychological/Horror 4,474 3,329 -26% Religion 4,925 4,174 -15% Romance 34,585 30,885 -11% Science Fiction 4,448 4,142 -7% Suspense/Thrillers. 22,161. 20,111 -9% General Fiction 36,314 33,524 -8% I cut out the ones that had declined less than science fiction. I didn't have to cut much out. Should we ask if Action/Adventure is dying? Romance? Religion? |
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If you read that post again you will notice that "censorship" was just an example, "instance" is the word I used, the MAIN point being a question when someone seemed to strongly dislike SF hence my curiosity and ensuing question...
It is interesting that so much attention comes to my "instance" while so little (actually none so far) to my question. Someone says they will plan a party if a full genre of literature dies and NOBODY seems the least curious as to why? |
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I think it's a cycle myself. You saw the same thing with movies in the past. In the 40's it was monster movies, then SF in the 50's, 60's musicals, 70's gritty action (Dirty Harry etc) and so forth. Books probably follow a similar cycle in popularity.
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The data relied upon is very obviously badly flawed, and a terrible basis for prompting this type of discussion. However, there is of course no harm in talking about it. I don't this data is very useful for anything. Furthermore, I suspect that Sci-Fi is stronger than ever. I also think that, with the exception of Baen, it has become very much the province of the self-published authors. Perhaps Brad Torgersen's Sad Puppies 3 campaign referred to in one of the articles above provides some glimpse of one of the reasons for this.
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If voxday said the sky was blue, he'd probably add that it was orange until those women and SJWs knocked it out of the sky.
I can't remember the last time I bought an SFF book from a large publisher that wasn't YA dystopian. But I do buy micropress and self published SF. It might be rougher around the edges, but it also seems to have more energy. And, to be honest, a better price. Mind you, I'm a pink shirt lesbian feminist female, so the death of science fiction is probably all my fault. Why, you're welcome, voxday! |
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