The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 79

Slite · 11-12-2008, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Oh, you don't HAVE to age. Just tell yourself that you haven't. I just watch my nieces and nevvies grow from infants to collegiates .... but *I'm* still the same ole me. They must live in an accelerated universe. Mine stands still.

Well, I've never had that problem beeing male, I turned 12, then I just grew physicly

GeoffC · 11-12-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

That is a rather good quote

that's not a quote, just a sentiment ....

ShortNCuddlyAm · 11-12-2008, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

that's not a quote, just a sentiment ....

Oh bah

GeoffC · 12-07-2008, 04:42 AM

Grrrr.
Internet companies who try to con us with prices...

A download program ... direct from the producer

Direct UK store £49.99 ...

US Store with a UK outlet £21.52 ...

both prices include VAT at 15% ....

bbusybookworm · 12-07-2008, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

Grrrr.
Internet companies who try to con us with prices...

A download program ... direct from the producer

Direct UK store £49.99 ...

US Store with a UK outlet £21.52 ...

both prices include VAT at 15% ....

Ouch that's quiet a price difference.

Might I ask which scurrilous producer it was ?

GeoffC · 12-07-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bbusybookworm

Ouch that's quiet a price difference.

Might I ask which scurrilous producer it was ?

Nuance ....

zelda_pinwheel · 12-09-2008, 09:41 AM

i paid extra to have the extended 5-year guarantee for my washing machine. during the 5 years i had one or two minor troubles not necessitating an intervention (mainly troubles with wires coming out of bras and getting stuck in various places, including the filter. note to all the ladies : best to get some sort of closed washing bag for your lingerie, because the bra wires will play havoc with the washing machine).

the guarantee expired on 3 october 2008, one month and 6 days ago.

2 days ago, one of the plastic beater blades from the inside of the drum BROKE OFF while i was doing some washing. it can be replaced, of course, but since the five-year guarantee expired ONE MONTH ago, i'll have to pay for it myself.

badgoodDeb · 12-09-2008, 01:19 PM

These machines *are* sentient, you know. They are quite aware, thank you, of when the warrantee expires.

Mindy · 12-10-2008, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

These machines *are* sentient, you know. They are quite aware, thank you, of when the warrantee expires.

Yup.
They sit.
And they wait.

Either that or some git puts in a specially timed destructo-chip (which is what I've always suspected). Anything that breaks before then is just because of a problem with the timer, which is why they give you 'new' refurbed machines instead of just fixing your old one. They need time to dispose of the evidence.

Diogene · 12-10-2008, 06:14 AM

One more proof that capitalism is an insane society with inverted values:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

pshrynk · 12-10-2008, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diogene

One more proof that capitalism is an insane society with inverted values:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

I remember learning about planned obsolescence in grade school. I thought it was perverse back then.

zelda_pinwheel · 12-10-2008, 08:35 AM

yes, it's nothing new.

Diogene · 12-10-2008, 09:03 AM

The thing about it is not that it is not new, it is that it is still going on, despite so many people knowing about it, articles and books written to denounce it.

pshrynk · 12-10-2008, 09:08 AM

I think that one of the things that perpetuates industry's ability to continue to be this wasteful is the accelration of unplanned obsolescence. Computers change and upgrade capacity so fast these days that we are starting to actually expect a new phone every year or so. My mother up to about five years ago, was still talking on the cradle and handset phone she had when we moved into our home in 1967! That thing would have never died, if it were not for the switch to digital signal and the loss of analog functionality. We need to be able to slow down sometimes, I think, and hold on to things that can continue to function. Just my $0.02.

Diogene · 12-10-2008, 09:48 AM

I do not agree.
I do not have a cell phone.
I think by now maybe half of humanity has been raised by television and is deeply under the influence of PR and advertising (also through TV series, blogs,..). The younger generations' deepest desires have been shaped by marketing.
They feel depressed and inferior, as if they and their lives are worthless if they do not own anything new. Their lives have no deep meaning, only products can give them a semblance of meaning.
It is clearly pathological.

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12-07-2008, 04:42 AM	#1174
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Grrrr. Internet companies who try to con us with prices... A download program ... direct from the producer Direct UK store £49.99 ... US Store with a UK outlet £21.52 ... both prices include VAT at 15% ....

12-09-2008, 09:41 AM	#1177
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	i paid extra to have the extended 5-year guarantee for my washing machine. during the 5 years i had one or two minor troubles not necessitating an intervention (mainly troubles with wires coming out of bras and getting stuck in various places, including the filter. note to all the ladies : best to get some sort of closed washing bag for your lingerie, because the bra wires will play havoc with the washing machine). the guarantee expired on 3 october 2008, one month and 6 days ago. 2 days ago, one of the plastic beater blades from the inside of the drum BROKE OFF while i was doing some washing. it can be replaced, of course, but since the five-year guarantee expired ONE MONTH ago, i'll have to pay for it myself.

12-09-2008, 01:19 PM	#1178
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,555 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	These machines are sentient, you know. They are quite aware, thank you, of when the warrantee expires.

12-10-2008, 06:14 AM	#1180
Diogene Banned Posts: 71 Karma: 154 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: BeBook	One more proof that capitalism is an insane society with inverted values: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

12-10-2008, 08:35 AM	#1182
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	yes, it's nothing new.

12-10-2008, 09:03 AM	#1183
Diogene Banned Posts: 71 Karma: 154 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: BeBook	The thing about it is not that it is not new, it is that it is still going on, despite so many people knowing about it, articles and books written to denounce it.

12-10-2008, 09:08 AM	#1184
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I think that one of the things that perpetuates industry's ability to continue to be this wasteful is the accelration of unplanned obsolescence. Computers change and upgrade capacity so fast these days that we are starting to actually expect a new phone every year or so. My mother up to about five years ago, was still talking on the cradle and handset phone she had when we moved into our home in 1967! That thing would have never died, if it were not for the switch to digital signal and the loss of analog functionality. We need to be able to slow down sometimes, I think, and hold on to things that can continue to function. Just my $0.02.

12-10-2008, 09:48 AM	#1185
Diogene Banned Posts: 71 Karma: 154 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: BeBook	I do not agree. I do not have a cell phone. I think by now maybe half of humanity has been raised by television and is deeply under the influence of PR and advertising (also through TV series, blogs,..). The younger generations' deepest desires have been shaped by marketing. They feel depressed and inferior, as if they and their lives are worthless if they do not own anything new. Their lives have no deep meaning, only products can give them a semblance of meaning. It is clearly pathological.