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Those companies have no employees in Australia?
They incur no costs whatsoever in doing business there? |
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![]() The 2 ISPs (both, in fact, owned by the same company) in NZ that provide the Global Mode mentioned in the article have been under investigation over the last few months by the NZ Office of Film and Literature Classification. Of course, this is not a copyright or contractual rights issue but a classification one; your comment about little sympathy for geo-restrictions is correct. The Global Mode mentioned is unlike VPN in that it is the local ISP that obfuscates their customers' IP addresses to that of another country (the software was developed in NZ) on their customers' behalf and so it is considered that the local ISP may be complicit in illegally circumventing censorship and classification of films by the showing of non NZ classified content. As far as I know this has not been resolved yet, one way or the other. This classification issue could affect ISPs providing Global Mode with respect to book and magazine download from overseas suppliers too, where the sale of a book is banned or be illegal to possess here, or classified R18; the former would be mainly child porn, extreme violence, etc., and the latter being some magazines. The ISP may be regarded as being complicit in their supply. The developers of the Global Mode have stated that in their opinion Global Mode will only be of short term interest in NZ as to compete against it local and overseas companies will provide competitive streaming services (and this is looking like it may be so). It is said that rights holders are upset by the Global Mode but as far as I know none have taken formal action against the ISPs (that might be because of local streaming services starting up and the apparent sudden increased willingness of overseas streamers to start streaming to NZ, but I don't know that). |
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It has, I think, meant though that books get released here much more quickly and more of them too, than used to be the case long ago when rights holders had strict control. It may also account for the fact that the likes of Kobo discount vouchers, for example, can be applied to a far greater range of publishers' books than in Australia?? Movies are the only thing here, as far as I know, that have a restriction on their commercial (private is not controlled) parallel importing in that they may not be commercially parallel imported until 9 months after the date of first release wherever in the world that first release was. That was imposed in the early 2000s, prior to that there was no restraint and so the change was a step backwards; but the net effect of parallel importing before and after that date is that movies get released here much more quickly than they used to be back in the dark ages of total control by rights holders. Last edited by AnotherCat; 01-07-2015 at 04:44 PM. |
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But it establishes a salary floor so, if say the janitorial staff starts at double to US minimum (due to the high cost of living, presumably) one would expect higher salaries for everybody else (short of top executives, of course). I'm no tradpub booster but if Australia can actually pass a law nullifying copyright licenses that your publishers paid good money for, I will be majorly impressed. |
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@anothercat, isn't it grand when the minnows fight back .....
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The Harper Review report referred to is a draft report making recommendations on Competition Policy. It was released in September and is currently open for comments, with the final report due for release in March.
It did not recommend any legislative ban on geo-restrictions, recognising the practical difficulties, some of which have been pointed out by Harry in this thread. In Paragraph 16.2 it said: Attempting to legislate against international price discrimination could result in significant Also in that paragraph:implementation and enforcement difficulties and risks negative unintended consequences. Instead, the Panel supports moves to address international price discrimination through market solutions that empower consumers. These include the removal of restrictions on parallel imports and ensuring that consumers are able to take legal steps to circumvent attempts to prevent their accessing cheaper legitimate goods. The Panel notes the recommendations of the July 2013 report of the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Infrastructure and Communications into IT pricing in Australia.288 That Committee recommended the removal of restrictions on parallel imports, consistent with Draft Recommendation 9 of this Draft Report. In addition, the Committee made a number of recommendations (as set out in Box 16.4) that the Panel endorses in principle as a means of encouraging a market-based, consumer driven solution to concerns about international price discrimination, as well as a number of recommendations that could form part of the overarching review of intellectual property proposed at Draft Recommendation 7. And finally, and most importantly, the Box 16.4 referred to: Box 16.4: Relevant recommendations of House of Representatives Standing Committee Report on IT pricing in Australia289 Recommendations that the Panel supports in principle include: House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 5 The Australian Government amend the Copyright Act’s section 10(1) anti-circumvention provisions to clarify and secure consumers’ rights to circumvent technological protection measures that control geographic market segmentation. House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 6 The Australian Government investigate options to educate Australian consumers and businesses as to: • the extent to which they may circumvent geoblocking mechanisms in order to access cheaper legitimate goods; • the tools and techniques which they may use to do so; and • the way in which their rights under the Australian Consumer Law may be affected should they choose to do so. House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 8 The Committee recommends the repeal of section 51(3) of the Competition and Consumer Act 2010. Recommendations that the Panel considers should form part of a review of IP laws: House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 7 The Committee recommends that the Australian Government, in conjunction with relevant agencies, consider the creation of a ‘right of resale’ in relation to digitally distributed content, and clarification of ‘fair use’ rights for consumers, businesses, and educational institutions, including restrictions on vendors’ ability to ‘lock’ digital content into a particular ecosystem. House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 9 The Committee recommends that the Australian Government consider enacting a ban on geoblocking as an option of last resort, should persistent market failure exist in spite of the changes to the Competition and Consumer Act and the Copyright Act recommended in this report. House of Representatives Committee Recommendation 10 That the Australian Government investigate the feasibility of amending the Competition and Consumer Act so that contracts or terms of service which seek to enforce geoblocking are considered void. Notice the recommendation about creating resale rights? I believe this is largely impractical, at least for ebooks. My only observation is that fpr a wise industry or large company it may well be prudent to moderate your own practices before Government's do so. The whole chapter is well worth a read. It also refers to the Canadian Government taking action to prevent its citizens being discriminated against on price. The link to download a pdf of the draft report is http://competitionpolicyreview.gov.a...aft-report.pdf |
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Thanks, darryl. That's a lot more moderate and sensible than some of the reports of it we've had reported here.
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Further to the above post, I should add that sub-section 51(3), which the House of Representatives Committee recommended the repeal, provides the Act is not contravened for various reasons related to Intellectual Property, including, for instance, provisions in license agreements.
My view on this whole matter is that dividing the world into segments and selling the rights individually was something that was possible and logical before ebooks and the internet. It is no longer either logical or even technologically feasible, though we are left with the legacy of the times when it was. That it works at all at the moment is due only to the technologically unsophisticated or apathetic. Like it or not, the reality is that for electronic goods and/or services we now have one world market, though it may take some time for the law and the industries concerned to recognise this. |
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