Kindle Voyage vs Kobo Aura H2O - Page 24

JSWolf · 12-21-2014, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

But, on the other hand, the Voyage is a lot more portable than the H2O. The main reason the H2O is larger isn't the screen, but the larger bezel, particularly at the bottom.

Every bag/knapsack I have, the H2O fits where the 650/T1 previously fit. so portability is no problem even though the H2O is larger.

The difference in height between the H2O snd the Voyage is .65" or 17mm. not all that much difference really. The weight difference is 1.58oz or 45g. Again, not much. As for the weight, you could negate the difference depending on which covers on which device.

JSWolf · 12-21-2014, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

They matter when it comes to ease of carrying the reader around. I can easily carry my Voyage in my pocket; I couldn't do that with my H2O.

And I would not carry any Reader in a pocket as I don't want to put undo risk to it getting broken.

HarryT · 12-21-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Every bag/knapsack I have, the H2O fits where the 650/T1 previously fit. so portability is no problem even though the H2O is larger.

The difference in height between the H2O snd the Voyage is .65" or 17mm. not all that much difference really. The weight difference is 1.58oz or 45g. Again, not much. As for the weight, you could negate the difference depending on which covers on which device.

I'm not talking about the weight, Jon. As you rightly say, this is negligible.

I would recommend anyone to try to compare the two devices "in the flesh" before making up their mind. They are both excellent readers, but they do have individual strengths and weaknesses. As you know, I came down in favour of the Voyage due to the problems with the Kobo's touchscreen which, although they can be worked around, were a significant issue for me.

Canuck_in_Japan · 12-21-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

I second that!

I third that!
I find that the Kobo dictionary is perfectly sufficient for finding word definitions. My main complaint is that it doesn't give me any word origins.

uppon2 · 12-21-2014, 11:58 AM

I would also not carry a reader around on my person. I only read when I'm commuting to and from work/study and when I'm at home; I always have a bag for the former and it is not necessary for the latter. I do appreciate all of the feedback, though. Thank you to all contributing members.

Does anybody know if Kobo has a similar feature to that of the vocabulary builder from Kindle?

dordale · 12-21-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

They matter when it comes to ease of carrying the reader around. I can easily carry my Voyage in my pocket; I couldn't do that with my H2O.

I agree with Harry on this. I have a Kindle PW2 and an Aura HD. I love my Aura HD, and it's the reader I use most of the time. But, when I'm on the go, I tend to grab my PW--it fits in the side pocket of my purse much easier than the HD and it's a perfectly good reader. Frankly, I'd hate to have to part with either of them (unless I was replacing the PW with a Voyage or the HD with an H2O.

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robko · 12-21-2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by uppon2

Does anybody know if Kobo has a similar feature to that of the vocabulary builder from Kindle?

No and I'm not aware of any of the alternative readers you can put on it having this either.

HarryT · 12-26-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

I third that!
I find that the Kobo dictionary is perfectly sufficient for finding word definitions. My main complaint is that it doesn't give me any word origins.

I'd like to do a small test, if you wouldn't mind. Using the Kindle's "Vocabulary Builder" feature, I see that the last 10 words I've looked up in the Kindle's dictionary have been:

Aestivate
Pisé
Monorchidism
Droshky
Pahlavi
Uremic
Postiche
Louche
Catabolism
Zazen

All of these words are defined in the Kindle's dictionary. Could someone take a look and see how many of them are present in the Kobo's dictionary, please?

JSWolf · 12-26-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I'd like to do a small test, if you wouldn't mind. Using the Kindle's "Vocabulary Builder" feature, I see that the last 10 words I've looked up in the Kindle's dictionary have been:

Aestivate
Pisé
Monorchidism
Droshky
Pahlavi
Uremic
Postiche
Louche
Catabolism
Zazen

All of these words are defined in the Kindle's dictionary. Could someone take a look and see how many of them are present in the Kobo's dictionary, please?

Only two words were not found.

Pisé
Zazen

Abtacha · 12-26-2014, 03:49 PM

Edit: What Jon said.

HarryT · 12-26-2014, 04:40 PM

Thank you - that's better than I'd thought would be the case.

(In case you were wondering, Pisé is an old method of building walls, by forcing clay between boards, and then removing the boards when the clay dries, and zozen is a type of Zen Buddhist meditation. The entire list of words are things I've looked up while reading Agatha Christie's autobiography.)

Interesting to hear.

jackie_w · 12-26-2014, 05:18 PM

... and Pisé is found in the freely-available custom Chambers 1908 EN-EN dictionary which can be added to replace one of the dictionaries you don't use (in my case the Italian-Italian one).

Pisé, pē-zā, n. stiff earth or clay rammed down to form walls or floors. [Fr.]

JSWolf · 12-26-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

... and Pisé is found in the freely-available custom Chambers 1908 EN-EN dictionary which can be added to replace one of the dictionaries you don't use (in my case the Italian-Italian one).

Pisé, pē-zā, n. stiff earth or clay rammed down to form walls or floors. [Fr.]

Are all the words found in the 1908 dictionary?

jackie_w · 12-26-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Are all the words found in the 1908 dictionary?

Oh no, just some. That's why I like to have several EN-EN dictionaries loaded simultaneously. If a word's not in the main one it's often in one of the others.

Finding all words in a single dictionary would obviously be better but it doesn't take very long to cycle through the alternatives when necessary.

JSWolf · 12-26-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

Oh no, just some. That's why I like to have several EN-EN dictionaries loaded simultaneously. If a word's not in the main one it's often in one of the others.

Finding all words in a single dictionary would obviously be better but it doesn't take very long to cycle through the alternatives when necessary.

How do you have an EN-EN dictionary? I just tried it and I got a message We cannot translate from English-English.

12-21-2014, 11:58 AM	#350
uppon2 Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kindle DXG & iRiver Story (Original)	I would also not carry a reader around on my person. I only read when I'm commuting to and from work/study and when I'm at home; I always have a bag for the former and it is not necessary for the latter. I do appreciate all of the feedback, though. Thank you to all contributing members. Does anybody know if Kobo has a similar feature to that of the vocabulary builder from Kindle? Last edited by uppon2; 12-21-2014 at 12:03 PM.

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