|  12-23-2014, 01:32 AM | #1 | 
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				E-readers 'damage sleep and health,' doctors warn
			  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30574260 The article, however is not talking about electronic readers it's talking about using a tablet instead of an electronic reader. It's a very badly written article. "The researchers said other e-readers such as the Nook and Kindle Fire produced similar wavelengths of light and would have the same impact." Some Nooks do not produce similar wavelengths of light. | 
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|  12-23-2014, 01:46 AM | #2 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles | 
			
			I pulled the full paper: they were reading on an iPad for four hours before bedtime, in otherwise very dim room light.  I can't find mention background colour settings, which one might think could be rather important - but note that they had the iPads on full brightness! For FOUR HOURS. A previous similar study used iPads on full brightness for two hours. (Who on earth reads on their iPad indoors in the dark with the brightness turned up to full?) They note themselves in the study limitations that the print-book 'control' group were only exposed to reflected "very dim light". The results were a sleep onset delay of around ten minutes, and 11 minutes less REM sleep. | 
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|  12-23-2014, 01:49 AM | #3 | 
| Surfin the alpha waves ~~            Posts: 26,745 Karma: 459765791 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Device: Jetbook Lite & Mini, Nook STR, Kobo, Hanvon N516, Kindle 2, Androids | 
			
			Yep, doesn't apply to me.
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|  12-23-2014, 02:20 AM | #4 | |
| Zealot            Posts: 113 Karma: 113412 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Device: Aura One | Quote: 
 Sloppy journalism. | |
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|  12-23-2014, 02:56 AM | #5 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			Tried to read the article on my Nexus 7, but kept falling asleep in the middle.
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|  12-23-2014, 04:31 AM | #6 | 
| Martin Kristiansen            Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2 | 
			
			I read somewhere once that more doctors recommend camel than any other cigarette. I'll file this study with that claim.
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|  12-23-2014, 05:09 AM | #7 | 
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			It would be interesting to know if the paperwhite damages the sleep as well.
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|  12-23-2014, 05:11 AM | #8 | 
| Chocolate Grasshopper ...            Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW | 
			
			Nothing to do with 'royalties' paid by Penguin Press .. Specifically mentions Light-Emitting Readers, so that will include the Kindle Paperwhite, which has only an intensity setting, not a colour change option. Not too sure this is actually saying anything 'new' ! | 
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|  12-23-2014, 05:57 AM | #9 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles | 
			
			They only tested a full-brightness iPad. The results cannot be generalised to the Paperwhite or to other frontlit e-ink devices.
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|  12-23-2014, 06:05 AM | #10 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,432 Karma: 10519918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Ipad Pro/Kindle Oasis 3/iPhone 13 Pro Max | |
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|  12-23-2014, 06:52 AM | #11 | 
| Feral Underclass            Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback | 
			
			Check the footnotes of the original "research": "Dr. Czeisler received royalties from McGraw Hill, Penguin Press/Houghton Mifflin Harcourt" And the research data: 12 people over 5 days. | 
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|  12-23-2014, 07:45 AM | #12 | |
| Somewhat clueless            Posts: 790 Karma: 11000001 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis | 
			
			This research seems almost comically flawed. From the paper: Quote: 
 You could equally well conduct a study comparing the the use of a well-adjusted e-reader while lying in bed with reading a paper book lit by a kilowatt spotlight while hanging by one arm from the ceiling, and conclude that e-readers are better. /JB | |
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|  12-23-2014, 07:57 AM | #13 | |
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			Here's a more reasonable report on the actual effect--lighting intensity resetting the body's internal clock--from 4 years ago. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/....gadgets.ipad/ Quote: 
 It is a well-known effect due to *lighting* not iPads, ereaders, or TVs. You can get the same result if you read off print with a sun-spectrum lamp or just play Monopoly every night under standard light bulbs. Tying it to gadgets is just disingenuous spin, especially in a study funded by old-school dead tree pulp purveyors. Next! Last edited by fjtorres; 12-23-2014 at 08:08 AM. | |
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|  12-23-2014, 08:01 AM | #14 | 
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			I'd be curious to see the difference in study design if these publishers decided to create their own lit e-reader or tablet.
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|  12-23-2014, 08:05 AM | #15 | 
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			Reads like a print journalism hit piece.
		 Last edited by FacebookVirus; 12-23-2014 at 08:08 AM. | 
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