|  11-23-2014, 12:57 AM | #16 | 
| Connoisseur            Posts: 91 Karma: 648694 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: ipad mc7 16gig | 
			
			oh yes, would not be without print books. My library probably contains more than some small town libraries.I have a pile beside my bed, my chair and at the table, and although most are non-fiction, I do have sets of favorite fiction in paper as well as on my ereader.There is definitely a place for both in my life.
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|  11-23-2014, 05:59 AM | #18 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | Quote: 
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|  11-23-2014, 06:00 AM | #19 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			I don't think I've really opened a paper book in months if not longer. I still have my collection but ebooks are so much easier to carry round.
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|  11-23-2014, 06:02 AM | #20 | |
| Banned            Posts: 488 Karma: 1080260 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: sony prs t1 kindle dx ipad | Quote: 
 Then it takes computer a two hours to make searchable pdf, without my surveillance. Those who don't like scanning can pay someone else to do that instead. Last edited by markom; 11-23-2014 at 06:23 AM. | |
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|  11-23-2014, 06:11 AM | #21 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,432 Karma: 10519918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Ipad Pro/Kindle Oasis 3/iPhone 13 Pro Max | 
			
			I haven't read a paper book in years. I do have Amber Chronicles by Zelazny and Downbelow Station by Cherryh on my TBR list sitting on a shelf, both in paper. Neither is available as an ebook. So eventually I'll read them.  I'm nearing retirement age. I may do like my dad did. He'd go around to some attic sales every saturday. He'd pick up a book or two, usually fairly new for as little as a quarter. never more than a buck. When he was finished with them they went to the community clubhouse where the residents had a fairly healthy personnal library where others dropped off and exchanged books. I'm sure in his retirement community, ebooks were not very popular. | 
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|  11-23-2014, 06:28 AM | #22 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,227 Karma: 12029046 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle, Kobo Touch, Nook SimpleTouch | 
			
			Yes, I still read paper books. Some are books I've had since before I got my first ereader. Some are books that aren't available as ebooks. Some are second-hand books that were much cheaper than their electronic versions, and which I am not so bothered about keeping. And some just have covers I really like. I don't buy many brand new pbooks these days. My attachment to owning the physical object has dramatically lessened. I do wonder if capitalism is shooting itself in the foot a bit, there. | 
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|  11-23-2014, 07:24 AM | #23 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 | 
			
			I can answer that question very shortly: No.  Reading a paper book in bed is just torture (and that's where I read the most).  It's gone as far that I simply will skip a book, even though I might like it, because it's not available electronically. (academic books excluded, not because they are not available in e form, because they usually are, but because paging back and forth is simply a lot more comfortable in a paper version) | 
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|  11-23-2014, 10:50 AM | #24 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,576 Karma: 36389706 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Device: Samsung 54A, Kobo Libra H2O, Samsung S6 Lite | 
			
			Nope won't touch them with a ten foot pole anymore.
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|  11-23-2014, 11:12 AM | #25 | |
| Ex-Helpdesk Junkie            Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only) | Quote: 
  There are the 39 actions that were used in the building of the Tabernacle, which forms the core of what can and cannot be done on Shabbos. These are the "Av" melachos, the "parent" or header of a category. Then there are the "Toldos", are not specifically mentioned in the Scripture but nevertheless considered to be the same type of action. And the Rabbis have frbidden some things as a safeguard because they look too similar to Biblical prohibitions and might cause confusion. And some things, while not strictly forbidden, are strongly discouraged because they aren't in the spirit of the day. Here, electricity is considered a form of fire, and using electronic devices is Biblically prohibited. Which is to say, we can still reap the benefit of lights and heating/AC and suchlike, but we cannot change their state. Random fun fact: brushing your teeth is a prohibition as well? Why such an innocuous thing? Because of... #29, m'macheik, or"smoothing". An Av melacha, wih its origins in scraping hides of leftover hair after the tannning. Its Toldah is m'marei'ach, or smearing. (Mouthwash is okay. It is a liquid. Just as long as it isn't too thick...  ) Last edited by eschwartz; 11-23-2014 at 11:18 AM. | |
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|  11-23-2014, 12:42 PM | #26 | 
| Enthusiast            Posts: 30 Karma: 350010 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Boston, MA Device: iPhone, K3 (Kindle Keyboard) | 
			
			I love paper books! When I am re-reading a book I really enjoyed, particularly one that I want to flip around an just read sections of, paper has an advantage. If I could afford it, I would have a paper AND electronic version of every book that I find worth keeping. I trust that the paper books will be around in 10 or 20 years. I love scanning them on my shelves, which offers a visual satisfaction I don't get from a list in an eReader. And it makes me very nostalgic, because as a kid, browsing the books around my parents' and relatives' houses was one of the things that quietly introduced me to the idea that reading was something that smart, interesting people did. I do not have children, but I do have nieces, and it makes me wonder a little if the reduced presence of physical books in their environment will have an impact on them. (Right now, they have all the children's books they can hope for, but there are very few adult books in their house, for various reasons.) But the truth is that my paper books right now reflect my reading preferences of 5-10 years ago, as the new ones are mostly electronic. Textbooks, religious books, and foreign language dictionaries are the exceptions. Last edited by bchaplin; 11-23-2014 at 12:45 PM. | 
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|  11-23-2014, 01:40 PM | #27 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,017 Karma: 19767610 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Device: ipad,  Kindle PW, Kobo Clara; iphone 7 | 
			
			I still buy some art books in paper. Everything is I buy in ebook format.   Now when I read hardcover art books, though, i find them heavy and difficult to hold. I wish I could get more of them in an e-version. A mini-ipad could provide the colour in a lighter format. However, many are not available that way yet. | 
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|  11-23-2014, 05:08 PM | #28 | 
| Guru            Posts: 997 Karma: 12000001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Wahington U.S. Device: kindle | 
			
			I'm trying to declutter so I'm replacing my paper favorites with ebooks and not buying fiction pbooks anymore. The less stuff I have around the house the better I feel. Sort of the opposite of a hoarder. Digital stuff doesn't count.
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|  11-23-2014, 05:33 PM | #29 | 
| Nameless Being | 
			
			Do I still read paper books?  Absolutely, all the time.  I'm awaiting a paper book requested through my library right now.  A case of the book only being available in paper.  In general if a paper book is cheaper or the only option I will read it in paper.  Format does not impact my book selection.
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|  11-23-2014, 06:21 PM | #30 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,063 Karma: 10944084 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New England Device: Oasis 2,Voyage, Kindlle hdx 8.9, Ipad mini 4. Air 2 | 
			
			I still have some hardcover & paperback books at home, but only read e-books now. I tried to read a paper books recently, and found it cumbersome. I wanted to adjust the text size almost immediately. That never really bothered me before I got an e-reader. Also needing to sit near a lamp. I use a lighted device so that has not been a problem since I started e-reading. I am spoiled by e- readers & tablets for reading now. I will keep the hardcover & paperbacks that I have for sentimental reasons. I don't have that many anymore. The rest of my library all e-books, that go with me where ever I go.      | 
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