I am sure this is elementary, but I don't know

rosshalde · 11-20-2014, 08:02 AM

Using Sigil - I want the picture - which is coded as suggested by Sigil's FAQ page to be the beginning of a chapter and be in the TOC to be on its own page.

<h1 style="text-align: center;" title="True Tales of God's Heroes"><img alt="Misericordia Fourth Reader_Page_013" src="../Images/Misericordia%20Fourth%20Reader_Page_013.jpeg" /></h1>

I want the next line

<p class="s1 s2">TRUE TALES OF GOD’S HEROES</p> to start a fresh page instead of start at the bottom page right under the picture.

I know I can just split into a new file, but is there a simple way in Sigil to command a regular paragraph to begin a fresh page within the same chapter/section/file? Should I code the picture to fill the page? I thought about copying the code from the cover file as that seems to use a code to fill the page. I wasn't sure how to integrate that svg code with the h1 - TOC issue.

The full code is below

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>1 Section 1 | Misericordia Fourth Reader</title>
<meta content="D0F15332-8BE5-4500-848C-D1A65E029346" name="EPB-UUID" />
<link href="../Styles/book.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>

<body>
<div class="body" style="white-space:normal">
<h1 style="text-align: center;" title="True Tales of God's Heroes"><img alt="Misericordia Fourth Reader_Page_013" src="../Images/Misericordia%20Fourth%20Reader_Page_013.jpeg" /></h1>

<p class="s1 s2">TRUE TALES OF GOD’S HEROES</p>

DiapDealer · 11-20-2014, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosshalde

I know I can just split into a new file, but is there a simple way in Sigil to command a regular paragraph to begin a fresh page within the same chapter/section/file?

To be honest, splitting into a new file IS the simple way. Otherwise, you're going to have to apply "page-break-before: always" CSS attributes to the class of the element (in your case; <p>) where you want a page-break. Which will work, of course, but also brings its own bugbears related to top-margin on various devices.

No, in your instance the simplest way is to split the file and make "TRUE TALES OF GOD’S HEROES" a heading (h1,2,3,4) so it gets picked up by the TOC generator.

In short, unless there are some really weird considerations (and there don't seems to be any here), just create (split) a new file wherever you want page breaks. It's easiest (and most compliant/supported) by far.

rosshalde · 11-20-2014, 08:59 AM

Thanks, I will just go ahead and split the document in two pieces

Notjohn · 11-21-2014, 08:30 AM

I am often amazed at how many "chapters" I have in a single book. At first I resisted this, since it didn't seem elegant to me, but then I stopped worrying and started to love what was happening. It's not as if the reader is conscious of the page break; he'll just keep turning the pages.

In addition to every chapter, I have a separate file for the cover, TOC, title page, almost every photograph, occasionally a caption, the copyright / About the Author page, and Further Reading. This can be fifty "chapters." So what? It works.

DiapDealer · 11-21-2014, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notjohn

I am often amazed at how many "chapters" I have in a single book. At first I resisted this, since it didn't seem elegant to me, but then I stopped worrying and started to love what was happening. It's not as if the reader is conscious of the page break; he'll just keep turning the pages.

In addition to every chapter, I have a separate file for the cover, TOC, title page, almost every photograph, occasionally a caption, the copyright / About the Author page, and Further Reading. This can be fifty "chapters." So what? It works.

Yep. I've found the same thing. I use as many files as it takes to achieve what I want.

I think a lot of people resist because of the whole "chapter" association/dogma. It's unfortunate that everyone took to calling them "chapter" files in the first place. Oh well.

theducks · 11-21-2014, 10:16 AM

The initial default for the multiple-file rename tool is Section0001 .
Works for me in initially, most cases where I discover kitchen sink* file naming

.
I use this to allow a narrow Book browser window

Later, I may rename a few as Mile markers for really large lists, just to make locating easier.

* ISBN title-Author-series-section-firstbornsname

11-20-2014, 08:02 AM	#1
rosshalde Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: nook	I am sure this is elementary, but I don't know Using Sigil - I want the picture - which is coded as suggested by Sigil's FAQ page to be the beginning of a chapter and be in the TOC to be on its own page. <h1 style="text-align: center;" title="True Tales of God's Heroes"><img alt="Misericordia Fourth Reader_Page_013" src="../Images/Misericordia%20Fourth%20Reader_Page_013.jpeg" /></h1> I want the next line <p class="s1 s2">TRUE TALES OF GOD’S HEROES</p> to start a fresh page instead of start at the bottom page right under the picture. I know I can just split into a new file, but is there a simple way in Sigil to command a regular paragraph to begin a fresh page within the same chapter/section/file? Should I code the picture to fill the page? I thought about copying the code from the cover file as that seems to use a code to fill the page. I wasn't sure how to integrate that svg code with the h1 - TOC issue. The full code is below <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <title>1 Section 1 \| Misericordia Fourth Reader</title> <meta content="D0F15332-8BE5-4500-848C-D1A65E029346" name="EPB-UUID" /> <link href="../Styles/book.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> </head> <body> <div class="body" style="white-space:normal"> <h1 style="text-align: center;" title="True Tales of God's Heroes"><img alt="Misericordia Fourth Reader_Page_013" src="../Images/Misericordia%20Fourth%20Reader_Page_013.jpeg" /></h1> <p class="s1 s2">TRUE TALES OF GOD’S HEROES</p>

11-21-2014, 10:16 AM	#6
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,909 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	The initial default for the multiple-file rename tool is Section0001 . Works for me in initially, most cases where I discover kitchen sink* file naming. I use this to allow a narrow Book browser window Later, I may rename a few as Mile markers for really large lists, just to make locating easier. * ISBN title-Author-series-section-firstbornsname

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rosshalde Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: nook	Thanks, I will just go ahead and split the document in two pieces

11-21-2014, 08:30 AM	#4
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,518 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	I am often amazed at how many "chapters" I have in a single book. At first I resisted this, since it didn't seem elegant to me, but then I stopped worrying and started to love what was happening. It's not as if the reader is conscious of the page break; he'll just keep turning the pages. In addition to every chapter, I have a separate file for the cover, TOC, title page, almost every photograph, occasionally a caption, the copyright / About the Author page, and Further Reading. This can be fifty "chapters." So what? It works.