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Old 09-14-2014, 07:56 PM   #16
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snerk (the OP) has not said which OS is being used. Linux was not mentioned at all. No OS was. So your trying to give help for Linux is no better/worse then my trying to give help for Windows.
I used my magical powers of deduction, from the way the OP said the system tray was disabled, which is only true on linux.

When you provide "help" by saying "it works as normal" it becomes pretty obvious that you aren't speaking of the same OS as the one where the OP said:

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The reason I want to is because the newest version does not minimize to the System Tray. That feature is dsabled because of a bug in Qt5.
I suggest you browse the source code/commits or try calibre on multiple platforms (I do both) before assuming that descriptions of calibre behavior do not indicate which system is being used.

There is nothing wrong with providing help for Windows, except it is a little ridiculous to respond by essentially saying "the system tray icon was not disabled" when the OP says it was, and I have already responded in a manner that implies it has been disabled at least for linux.

You could check the resources offered in others' answers, you might learn something rather than act on potentially flawed assumptions.
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Old 09-14-2014, 07:58 PM   #17
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IMO an application such as calibre shouldn't even have to bother implementing settings to enable things like minimise to tray etc. It should be part of the OS GUI, or the OS GUI should make it easy for 3rd party utilities to it.

Courtesy of a 3rd party utility, I have a buttons in the title bar on most windows of most applications for Minimise to tray, Roll up, Stay on top, Send to back, Centre, and Move to monitor.

I think I've seen utilities for Linux, although OS/X is more problematic.

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As Kovid said on the Qt5 bug report:

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I've also found some mailing list threads indicating that GNOME rejected the appindicator protocol and is implementing its own version, and I have no idea what KDE is doing. Not to mention all the various "light" window managers. I suppose all this will coalesce into something that can actually be developed against whenever the year of the Linux Desktop finally arrives
And likewise for implementing settings within the desktop itself, I should think.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:58 AM   #18
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Courtesy of a 3rd party utility, I have a buttons in the title bar on most windows of most applications for Minimise to tray, Roll up, Stay on top, Send to back, Centre, and Move to monitor.
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That sounds helpful. Care to share?
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That sounds helpful. Care to share?
@hidden.platypus - sure, the buttons some from ActualTools Title Buttons (ATB), which is a component of their Windows Manager package, which is what I use, the components are available individually - see Actual Tools.

Their products are not free, but when I was looking for something like their Window Manager in 2008 their product actually worked, whereas the rest only actually worked until they actually crashed sometimes actually BSODing, they also interfered with or were incompatible many other programs.

Some months ago I stumbled on something called eXtra Buttons, it's free and it had just been released. At the time I thought it might be a viable alternative to ATB, but when I look at Comments on the xtrabuttons.com page today, it looks like it suffers from the same problems as the others did back in 2008 when I started using ATB.

So the only thing I can actually suggest is ATB, there's a 60day trial, it'll cost you 20 bucks if you want to keep it, their email support is good, and they have an active forum.

I have no past or present interest in Actual Tools - pecuniary or otherwise. Apart from the fact that they stay in business. I think a lot of their business is corporate.

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Old 09-20-2014, 01:03 PM   #20
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@BR Thanks. I will look into this.

Right now I use Nailit to keep a window on top, and I don't have anything to force minimize to tray etc.

I made a Macrium backup this morning, and I'll be testing AT for the rest of the week.
For whatever reason my PC is finicky about installing new programs, especially programs that do admin level functions. I've had it BSOD me when running CCleaner.

Hopefully this goes well.
Thank you.

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Old 10-30-2014, 11:38 PM   #21
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The reason I want to is because the newest version does not minimize to the System Tray. That feature is dsabled because of a bug in Qt5.
Some time later...

You will be happy to learn that tonight's release (check it out in an hour or two) has re-enabled support for the system tray on linux.

https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...e5fec49a99e611

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Some time later...

You will be happy to learn that tonight's release (check it out in an hour or two) has re-enabled support for the system tray on linux.

https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...e5fec49a99e611
I have upgraded to 2.8 which has system tray support, but it does not appear to be working on Linux Mint 17 cinnamon.
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Yep. No joy for cinnamon. Oh well ... the systray icon isn't a deal-breaker for me.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:47 PM   #24
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Your desktop environment has to support the Status Notifier spec. As far as I know, that includes GNOME 3, KDE 4 and Unity (tested on all of them). I dont know if GNOME 2 based desktops or cinnamon support it.

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Your desktop environment has to support the Status Notifier spec. As far as I know, that includes GNOME 3, KDE 4 and Unity (tested on all of them). I dont know if GNOME 2 based desktops or cinnamon support it.
I saw a message to that effect when launching via command-line. Is there any more info on the Status Notifier spec? Google hasn't really led to me to anything definitive. Is there a list of environments that support it? Or perhaps some file/service names or libraries that can be searched for to determine if the spec is supported/implemented?
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Look at the top of tray.py in the calibre source code for a link. You can check whether it is present ona system by searching the DBus session bus for org.kde.StatusWatcher
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Look at the top of tray.py in the calibre source code for a link. You can check whether it is present ona system by searching the DBus session bus for org.kde.StatusWatcher
Cool, thanks.

To other users of Cinnamon: it may be worth mentioning that installing cairo-dock (OSX-type dock/launcher) and adding/enabling its newer Notification Area applet, will restore the minimize to tray feature of calibre.

I don't mean to suggest that users should overhaul their Cinnamon desktops just to get calibre's systray feature working again, but it does give one hope that there might be (or eventually might be) other other 3rd-party workarounds.
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The old implementation worked on my Cinnamon desktop, once enabled in the source.

Perhaps both methods could be delivered?
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t may be worth mentioning that installing cairo-dock (OSX-type dock/launcher)...
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Perhaps both methods could be delivered?
The XEmbed based implementation in Qt 5 is buggy, on some desktop environments it causes the tray icon to become a floating window. Since there is no way to detect that, it cannot be enabled. I could theoretically write my own XEmbed implementation, but I dont want to spend the time on what is a dead end tech.
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