Kindle Voyage - First Impressions

[badgoodDeb]

Originally Posted by HarryT

There's a very clear explanation of how to use Cloud Collections in the User Guide.

I just re-read it. It doesn't describe the two drop down menus and how they interact, and it doesn't say anything about how to make it look "like it used to look" with collections AND non-collectioned individual books showing. It may be obvious if you've been using cloud collections for a while, but it wasn't obvious to me.

It's not against any rules for me to go create a new thread, pulling all the above quotes together, is it? I don't care if it's a sticky; at least it will be *searchable*.

[HarryT]

Look at my original post, ace: I was responding to Jack's comment that "it's not a matter of effing perception".

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

I just re-read it. It doesn't describe the two drop down menus and how they interact, and it doesn't say anything about how to make it look "like it used to look" with collections AND non-collectioned individual books showing. It may be obvious if you've been using cloud collections for a while, but it wasn't obvious to me.

It's not against any rules for me to go create a new thread, pulling all the above quotes together, is it? I don't care if it's a sticky; at least it will be *searchable*.

If you think it would be useful, go ahead .

Perhaps worth noting, though, that the behaviour of collections with respect to whether or not you see the books in them separately as well as in the collections has been the same since the days of the Kindle Touch!

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Look at my original post, ace: I was responding to Jack's comment that "it's not a matter of effing perception".

I know. I am just deliriously happy to watch you use it.

(we live in the countryside, there is not much entertainment around here).

[HarryT]

Always pleased to make people happy .

[badgoodDeb]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If you think it would be useful, go ahead .

Perhaps worth noting, though, that the behaviour of collections with respect to whether or not you see the books in them separately as well as in the collections has been the same since the days of the Kindle Touch!

That's my point --- those of use coming from a K4 or earlier haven't seen this kind of collection! We may be raising our heads now, because we can finally get a touch kindle that also has buttons. (I did!) So anyway, there's a thread now.

[joblack]

Originally Posted by aceflor

I know. I am just deliriously happy to watch you use it.

(we live in the countryside, there is not much entertainment around here).

As long as the user cannot disable the front light the device isn't interesting.

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by joblack

As long as the user cannot disable the frontlight it isn't interesting.

Say what ?

[speedlever]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

That's my point --- those of use coming from a K4 or earlier haven't seen this kind of collection! We may be raising our heads now, because we can finally get a touch kindle that also has buttons. (I did!) So anyway, there's a thread now.

Thanks for this. I have to dive into these waters too coming from a k3.

[javadoo]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

You are the one that tries to say that Harry's picture does not have different colors in it based purely on the fact that your eyes combined with your viewing device (monitor) does not show it TO YOUR vision. And if you say it is the irrefutable truth, then you are the one that needs to lighten up.

Harry's picture does look much better than most of the "problematic" screens. And in person (not through a picture taken) I do believe it will look even better. To show you, I attach a picture (the very same as Harry's) that has boosted colors. It is subtle, but irrefutably the color shift from blueish to yellow is in the data of the image. Some see it some don't ( on the unedited picture with their monitor).

Who said anything about my opinion being the "irrefutable truth"?
Please refrain from attributing statements to me that I have not made.

Is this the online form of hazing or do you guys just get off on bullying people who don't agree with you or God Forbid post a thought that does not align with your thinking?

Because from here, it just seems to be done for entertainment purposes.

[cryzed]

Anyone ordered their Kindle Voyage from Germany? I was very happy with my device at first, until I discovered three bright dots centered in the middle of the screen. From what I gather they are apparently trapped dust particles which are being illuminated by the lighting. Now I'm considering going for a replacement device through the Amazon service, but I'm not sure how long I'd need to wait for a replacement, since the delivery date for new purchases has been moved up a few months. I'm also concerned about possibly getting a device with a worse display -- are these bright dots common?

EDIT: Nevermind, I just decided that I'm being silly. I can barely ever see these points even when I'm reading (at all light levels). It's just a stupid imperfection that I noticed because I searched for it, but which will never actually bother me.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by javadoo

Who said anything about my opinion being the "irrefutable truth"?
Please refrain from attributing statements to me that I have not made.

Is this the online form of hazing or do you guys just get off on bullying people who don't agree with you or God Forbid post a thought that does not align with your thinking?

Because from here, it just seems to be done for entertainment purposes.

You said so by repeatedly bringing up the power of suggestion. You accused people that they only see things because they want to find a fault. You still bring up the "it is only in your head that Harry's picture has a blue bottom, yellow top, because it is what so and so said".

And why don't you tell be the same thing? Oh wait, I never said so. So for entertaining purposes here it is:

As a matter of fact I have seen the color shift in the original.

I was being polite in my first answer, but apparently polite does not register with you. So maybe this will? Stop insulting others that do see the blue bottom, yellow top in Harry's picture by telling them they been fooled by their brain.

[krazy4katz]

Peace, people.

As a biomedical scientist who studies vision, although not at the level of the brain, what is interesting to me is that there seems to be a difference in contrast sensitivity as well. I would not be surprised if people see the screen as a different color. That is well known and easily tested. It does surprise me that some people see a gradient of colors whereas others see a uniform color. In men with red/green colorblindness, I might not be too surprised if it were a red to green gradient, but a yellow to blue puzzles me. Also, it is not just men who don't see the gradient. While I do see it in some of the photos, Harry's looks OK to me. A very interesting phenomenon.

[xendula]

COLOR TEST <- I dug up this old link we used during the PW1 debacle, which helped us establish that we all have varying degrees of color perception. It's a fun test.


@Harry, thank you for posting a picture. I can see a gradient that is in line with all the devices I have seen so far: warm top, cold bottom. I am attaching a picture that mirrors top and bottom, not sure if you will be able to see the difference, and I rather hope you won't, since you are happy with your KV, and that's all that matters. I will say that yours look to me much, much better than any of the screens I've had.

Originally Posted by javadoo

I wonder how much of this is actually perception and how much is people seeing what they *think* they should see. A psychological tic, so to speak. They've heard so much about the discolored screens that their brain tricks them into seeing it.
Because honestly, in that picture, I am just not seeing any pink/blue tones. At all.

Do the test!
Just because you can't see the color variation, doesn't mean that my brain tricks me into seeing anything. I received my first KV, opened the package, and called customer service right away. The colors were right in front of me, and that's before I heard that others received equally colored screens.

[David58117]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

If your PW2 is still within a year I'd ring up and complain about it, explain that you settled for a bad one at the time as it was the best Amazom could send you and that now the issues are resolved you want a replacement. Especially as you can't get a decent Voyage.

Dude!

This is why I've been advocating calling them and telling them your kindle is defective, and request if they will send a replacement once it's corrected.

They then place a note on your account and you're covered.

My PW 2 was over a year old, and because I called and had the note on my account, I've been able to request the newer 2014 PW 2, for free.