kindle Voyage VS kindle 4: screen hue

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by meeera

Improved contrast, and reduced bezel shadow (if not a flush-screen device). YMMV.

Precisely. The light improves the contrast, and makes the screen look whiter.

Of course you don't have to use it, but it certainly improves the appearance of the screen if you do.

[pidgeon92]

Originally Posted by Sharone

I don't see why you would want the frontlight on high in direct sunlight... Is that using the PW or the KV?

In a well-lit room I've found that turning the light way up improves screen quality. In direct sunlight, it's useless, I always turn it all the way down.

[Offie]

Originally Posted by hola!claude

I thought that the voyage would be better for the eye strain but I was probably wrong, there was a study that compared different monitors(LCD,e ink etc) that found that what really made a difference was the resolution of the screens more than the type of the screens
But this is probably not the case...

Is the kindle 4 still the king of the forest for contrast and eye strain problems?

Eye strain could be in part different for each person... For example I just can't read on a kindle with the light on higher than 5 or so, in a lit room, it is just painful. Similarly, on the computer I keep the brightness and contrast much lower than other people. I guess some variables involved depend on each person's sight.
This is a debate without conclusion (for example there is a poll on a page relating the study you speak of, and although the study concludes LCD and ereader make no difference per se, 78% people answered that they find ereaders more comfortable to read, even though untill now ereader resolution was much lower than on LCD screens.)

[For me, in order of eye strain:
Computer/tablet (20 min and my eyes burn) > Kindle Voyage (I feel some straining pretty fast) > Kindle paperwhite/kindle Touch/Kindle 4 (can read for a long time without trouble) > paper.]

But some people never experience eye strain with anything.

After thinking on it, what makes the Kindle 4 better for me, I think, is:
- the greyish background instead of yellowish on the Voyage
- the plastic screen: less glare/less defined reflections
- the different fonts. The Kindle 4 and Kindle Touch basic font is pretty much the same as the Paperwhite's, but on the Voyage they modified it, it's somewhat higher and thinner, and I really dislike it. To me it is less readable. Actually if not for that I would keep the Voyage without having to think about it.

Still, the Voyage's text is of course sharper and clearer; I really notice it when I compare it with the Paperwhite (I got one again yesterday, to give it a second chance, and compare it to the Voyage more, to decide which one I want to keep (if any). I feel crazy but I'd say the Voyage is too sharp for me, the fonts are not thick enough (helvetica would be, but the 4rd size is too small, and the 5th too big, ahah).

I really think this is individual; most people prefer the glass screen by far, and I think they are right because it's technically better.
The text being darker is a very good thing, too. In comparison the paperwhite seems almost blurry.

However, I would love to know what other people think of the modified fonts.

[hola!claude]

Originally Posted by Offie

Eye strain could be in part different for each person... For example I just can't read on a kindle with the light on higher than 5 or so, in a lit room, it is just painful. Similarly, on the computer I keep the brightness and contrast much lower than other people. I guess some variables involved depend on each person's sight.
This is a debate without conclusion (for example there is a poll on a page relating the study you speak of, and although the study concludes LCD and ereader make no difference per se, 78% people answered that they find ereaders more comfortable to read, even though untill now ereader resolution was much lower than on LCD screens.)

[For me, in order of eye strain:
Computer/tablet (20 min and my eyes burn) > Kindle Voyage (I feel some straining pretty fast) > Kindle paperwhite/kindle Touch/Kindle 4 (can read for a long time without trouble) > paper.]

But some people never experience eye strain with anything.

After thinking on it, what makes the Kindle 4 better for me, I think, is:
- the greyish background instead of yellowish on the Voyage
- the plastic screen: less glare/less defined reflections
- the different fonts. The Kindle 4 and Kindle Touch basic font is pretty much the same as the Paperwhite's, but on the Voyage they modified it, it's somewhat higher and thinner, and I really dislike it. To me it is less readable. Actually if not for that I would keep the Voyage without having to think about it.

Still, the Voyage's text is of course sharper and clearer; I really notice it when I compare it with the Paperwhite (I got one again yesterday, to give it a second chance, and compare it to the Voyage more, to decide which one I want to keep (if any). I feel crazy but I'd say the Voyage is too sharp for me, the fonts are not thick enough (helvetica would be, but the 4rd size is too small, and the 5th too big, ahah).

I really think this is individual; most people prefer the glass screen by far, and I think they are right because it's technically better.
The text being darker is a very good thing, too. In comparison the paperwhite seems almost blurry.

However, I would love to know what other people think of the modified fonts.

Yes I agree, eye strain is different for each person

I'm in the most sensitive minority,
for example I do experience much more eye strain on the kindle than on paper,
I don't know if it's because of the poorer contrast or because of the lower resolution,
but I can easily read for 5 hours straight on paper without any problem and I can't on a kindle,

of course the convenience of an ereader is unbeatable as we all know here,

for now I'm sticking to my kindle 4nt,
but I'm very interested in what people says about the new ereaders,
especially if they belong to the eye strain bunch like me ;-)

[krazy4katz]

I would read on the KV for a few days and see what you think. I felt eye strain the first couple of days, but then it went away. I figured the KV was so different from my KK that I needed an adjustment period. I am not through testing yet (only had it 4 days) but that is my observation so far.

[haydnfan]

Originally Posted by meeera

Improved contrast, and reduced bezel shadow (if not a flush-screen device). YMMV.

You and Harry must never read in daylight... you can't tell if the light is on or not. There is no improved contrast improvement on a clear bright day.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

You and Harry must never read in daylight... you can't tell if the light is on or not. There is no improved contrast improvement on a clear bright day.

Not outside in direct sunlight, I agree, but certainly indoors in the daylight, the light makes a big difference.

[Knightreader33]

Originally Posted by Offie

I am sorry if someone has made a similar thread already, but I don't think so as I could not find any comparison between Kindle 4 and kindle Voyage.
I would be grateful if you could tell me if your Voyage looks like that too:

So I got a Kindle Voyage two days ago, and as I compared it with my Kindle 4 I can't say that the screen is whiter.
Over the forum people say that the screen is much brighter than on the Paperwhite, so I don't understand why it would be less bright than good old Kindle 4.
I also read that people complain of a yellowish color, but only in regards to the front light.
My kindle Voyage, though, seems yellower to me with the light all down than my Kindle 4. Actually when I turn the light all the way up it is uniform with no blue or yellow spot, rather perfectly white-ish. But I never use the front light. So is the color of my Voyage normal or should I send it back as flawed?

Here are two pictures, the first one is what it looks in real life (more or less, the "yellowness" is more visible in reality).
On the second version of the picture I pushed up the contrast to find out if there was really yellow involved.

It appears that color wise my old Kindle 4 is better... Is this the normal color for the Voyage?
What do you think?

I have kindle 4 same as you and recently got a paperwhite 2. I noticed the screen isn't very white when you turn down the light on the pw2, and i actually prefer reading on my kindle 4 with an external light. I will be sending back my pw2 and keeping my kindle.

Not impressed with the lighted kindle, as the screen only looks good when the light is at full brightness because that creates the nice white effect on the screen. But since you wouldn't read at full brightness in bed, i think the pw2 at lower brightness settings looks kinda crappy in comparison to my older kindle.

The pw2 does look good when i attach my clip-on book light though, but this defeats the purpose of the pw2 as the reason i got it was to be able to read without additional light.

You do need a good light for the kindle 4 though. I recommend the Mighty Bright 6 hammerhead led music light from amazon. I read in landscape mode and the light attaches nicely to the side, but i do have to keep it secured in place with a bit of bluetack under the clip.

[Knightreader33]

Originally Posted by krazy4katz

I would read on the KV for a few days and see what you think. I felt eye strain the first couple of days, but then it went away. I figured the KV was so different from my KK that I needed an adjustment period. I am not through testing yet (only had it 4 days) but that is my observation so far.

I noticed eyestrain reading with my pw2. I find having an external book light attached to the kindle much easier on the eyes.

[PixelKnight]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

I don't understand what you're talking about, the Voyage clearly has a brighter screen than the Kindle 4 in the pictures that you posted.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Offie]

Thank you for your input Knightreader33, I feel less crazy now!

The frontlight is a poor excuse for screen whiteness. Compared to paper, the Paperwhite and Voyage are no whiter than the Kindle 4, so I agree with you, no improvement to see there.

The text quality is better but that's all.

As for the light on the Paperwhite (and Voyage), I agree with you, it's more agressive for the eyes than external sources of light to me too.

(But anyway I always read close to a good light source (lamp with adjustable brighness) so I don't need an ereader exernal light or frontlight for that matters; that's one of the advantages of having a room for oneself haha.)

PixelKnight, I guess I didn't use the word "bright" correctly then. I just meant that the screen is somewhat yellow while I was expecting something closer to white than my K4.

[hola!claude]

Originally Posted by krazy4katz

I would read on the KV for a few days and see what you think. I felt eye strain the first couple of days, but then it went away. I figured the KV was so different from my KK that I needed an adjustment period. I am not through testing yet (only had it 4 days) but that is my observation so far.

Yes, I think you are right the only way to know is to test it!

Let us know your experience with the KV !

Did you feel eye strain using the KK?