No Active Content for Voyage? - Page 2

pghaworth · 10-29-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

The experimental browser works with Calibre? Care to share a sentence or two about how / what it does? I've never found a use for the experimental browser.

You can connect to it via wifi and download your drm-free reads. I only realized this somewhat recently, and it does take some fiddling to get it right and connected, but once it's in place and bookmarked, it can be quite handy.

A few provisos:
1. If away from home, you must remember to connect before you leave. I haven't found a way to force it to auto connect whenever started.
2. You need to have a basic understanding of your home network, ports, etc. that will work to allow the access.
3. Some devices - Kindles here - accept password protection, and some don't. I recommend pw protection if your K accepts it. PW1 does for sure, and I feel sure PW2 does, as well. It just might take a bit of fiddling before it works for you.
4. If you're at home, it's probably just as quick to usb your books over. Its speed of delivery is dependent on the speed of your Kindle's EB, which as we all know is sometimes like watching paint dry. OTOH outside and away, it's a nice alternative to have if you've forgotten to download something, want to just look at something, etc.
5. The default port - 8080 - has never worked for me. 443 has been the best one, YMMV.
6. In Calibre: Preferences, Sharing Over the Internet to configure port, username, password, etc.
7. In Calibre: Connect/Share, Start Content Server. Once connected you can see your home IP and whichever port is being used by the content server.
8. In EB: You can browse by various things, I keep a column in Calibre called Next, mark the books I want to read next with one star and browse by that.
9. In EB: You can't bookmark and browse to the tagged pages, at least mine won't let me, but you can browse to "your IP and port" and once bookmarked return there each time easily. That's what makes it like watching paint dry. If you could auto browse to the tags/columns area and make it your start point it would be less time consuming.
10. Example: for bookmark 127.0.0.0:8080 yours will be different, but you can also test at home.

Hope this helps and wasn't TMI!

eschwartz · 10-29-2014, 09:25 PM

Personally, I much prefer the skipstone browser (hack by @baf): http://www.fabiszewski.net/kindle-browser/

In fact, aside from sporadically crashing, it is usable enough to do a lot of MR'ing-on-the-go.

It also allows downloading any file, but you will have to specifically choose the right folder.

You also get a bookmarks toolbar, and you can set a homepage.

pghaworth · 10-29-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Personally, I much prefer the skipstone browser (hack by @baf): http://www.fabiszewski.net/kindle-browser/

In fact, aside from sporadically crashing, it is usable enough to do a lot of MR'ing-on-the-go.

It also allows downloading any file, but you will have to specifically choose the right folder.

You also get a bookmarks toolbar, and you can set a homepage.

Hmmmm... Thanks!

Would you mind a couple of questions, on the other thread I started? The BB download?

eschwartz · 10-29-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Hmmmm... Thanks!

Would you mind a couple of questions, on the other thread I started? The BB download?

Of course not, feel free to ask away.

Wherever.

(If I haven't done so already.

)

pghaworth · 10-29-2014, 11:01 PM

You handled it!

Thanks!

Readirect · 10-31-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Avwriter

I just noticed that I cannot Download any of my Active Content (bought for my Paperwhite) to my Voyage. Then I actually went to the product page for specific apps, and it also appears they are not available for Voyage. Do you guys think this is just because the Voayge is new and they have not updated the Active Content store listings, or is the Voyage for some reason not compatible with them?

Since this seems to be a big part of jailbreaking, does this mean that the Voyage can't be jailbroken and/or won't be able to use apps like Kual?

pghaworth · 10-31-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Readirect

Since this seems to be a big part of jail-breaking, does this mean that the Voyage can't be jailbroken and/or won't be able to use apps like Kual?

Active Content isn't related to jail-breaking.

http://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_kk_...qid=1414767006

eschwartz · 10-31-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Active Content isn't related to jail-breaking.

http://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_kk_...qid=1414767006

It does however raise an interesting question.

IF the newest Kindles no longer support Active Content kindlets... how will we use KUAL? Hopefully some other menu will soon be created... maybe Aeris's Kindle Menu? (smartphone-style pulldown menu) But how do we initialize it without KUAL?

pghaworth · 10-31-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

It does however raise an interesting question.

IF the newest Kindles no longer support Active Content kindlets... how will we use KUAL? Hopefully some other menu will soon be created... maybe Aeris's Kindle Menu? (smartphone-style pulldown menu) But how do we initialize it without KUAL?

Thanks! I just learned something. So you're saying, that KUAL, which I have but haven't used a lot yet, is based on Kindle's "Active Content" feature (now gone with the Voyage)?
Well, that's not good!

The saving grace here is that programmers and hackers do what they love and love what they do. Hopefully something will be found in the somewhat near future.

eschwartz · 10-31-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Thanks! I just learned something. So you're saying, that KUAL, which I have but haven't used a lot yet, is based on Kindle's "Active Content" feature (now gone with the Voyage)?
Well, that's not good!

The saving grace here is that programmers and hackers do what they love and love what they do. Hopefully something will be found in the somewhat near future.

Yep. KUAL is an Active Content, or java applet for Kindle (kindlet), used in developer mode since Amazon would never authorize and sign it for sale in the Kindle Store.

pghaworth · 10-31-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Yep. KUAL is an Active Content, or java applet for Kindle (kindlet), used in developer mode since Amazon would never authorize and sign it for sale in the Kindle Store.

I took just enough programming to absolutely love it, and was pretty sure that KUAL was a java applet, but had no idea that Active Content was java based.

pghaworth · 10-31-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Personally, I much prefer the skipstone browser (hack by @baf): http://www.fabiszewski.net/kindle-browser/

In fact, aside from sporadically crashing, it is usable enough to do a lot of MR'ing-on-the-go.

It also allows downloading any file, but you will have to specifically choose the right folder.

You also get a bookmarks toolbar, and you can set a homepage.

"MR'ing-on-the-go" This escapes me - please explain. Thank you!

PieMan597 · 10-31-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Thanks! I just learned something. So you're saying, that KUAL, which I have but haven't used a lot yet, is based on Kindle's "Active Content" feature (now gone with the Voyage)?
Well, that's not good!

The saving grace here is that programmers and hackers do what they love and love what they do. Hopefully something will be found in the somewhat near future.

You can run programs and install things through the kindle via SSH, so you might see a launcher from there. Kual is just a launcher, and it makes the dev's job eaiser.

pghaworth · 10-31-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PieMan597

You can run programs and install things through the kindle via SSH, so you might see a launcher from there. Kual is just a launcher, and it makes the dev's job eaiser.

I'm all for all dev's jobs being easier!

I'm not sure why, but when I see "ssh" requirements to modify, etc., I start shaking in my stylish boots.

I have been working on computers my whole life, teaching how to use, teaching software, rooting my Android devices, jail-breaking my Kindles, etc., but that word makes me quake. Don't know what it is and I am "afeared" of it.

Actually, I think it's because I value my Kindles so greatly - aside from monetary value, while the rest of my devices are just devices. My Kindles are my friends.

eschwartz · 11-07-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

"MR'ing-on-the-go" This escapes me - please explain. Thank you!

MR == MobileRead, this website right here...

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10-29-2014, 09:25 PM	#17
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Personally, I much prefer the skipstone browser (hack by @baf): http://www.fabiszewski.net/kindle-browser/ In fact, aside from sporadically crashing, it is usable enough to do a lot of MR'ing-on-the-go. It also allows downloading any file, but you will have to specifically choose the right folder. You also get a bookmarks toolbar, and you can set a homepage.

10-29-2014, 11:01 PM	#20
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	You handled it! Thanks!