Report: Not one, but several Kindle successors in the works! - Page 3

Alisa · 08-28-2008, 10:02 PM

Yep. I think we've had it on pretty good authority that the screens won't be available in volume until spring 2009. I'm not holding my breath. Besides, I like having a smaller reader for novels. I want a larger one, too, for tech books, specs and such but I love having one the size of a paperback that I can easily carry around in my handbag for recreational reading.

Edit:

Oh and it looks like Amazon has now officially said no knew Kindles at all this year, big or small.

pilotbob · 08-29-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I've even backed up those books I did buy from Amazon. When and if I upgrade to the next generation of Kindle, I plan to register the new device and then simply copy all my books from my PC to my new Kindle.

Yep, that'll work. To each her own. I only keep a small amount of "to be read" books on my Kindle. The rest are backed up on my Amazon Media library or my PC. Perhaps if Amazon adds some type of folder support I will get and SD card and keep more on the device.

BOb

wallcraft · 08-29-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I've even backed up those books I did buy from Amazon. When and if I upgrade to the next generation of Kindle, I plan to register the new device and then simply copy all my books from my PC to my new Kindle.

This won't work unless you break the DRM first. I don't have two Kindles to confirm this, but based on how MOBI/AZW DRM works, your current ebooks should be locked to the PID of your existing Kindle.

Since Amazon already allows multiple Kindles per account, it should be possible to register a Kindle 2 to that account and re-download your existing ebooks from Amazon (via the internet or via whispernet).

I agree that keeping a copy on your PC is a good idea, but these are insurance against Amazon getting out of the ebook business (which is unlikely - even though they have done this once before) and to allow you the option of switching to a non-Amazon ebook reader in the future.

nekokami · 08-29-2008, 11:24 AM

Regarding reading and annotating PDF journal articles, I do this on my iLiad now and it works well, so I don't think we need much bigger screens than what are available today. One point that many people forget is that you can leave out the margins when displaying the PDF. (However, you lose some prime scribbling space that way.)

davers · 11-25-2008, 11:42 AM

My 2 cents: I think mp3's on the kindle is silly. It's just adding un-needed fluff to a good product. Don't waste time, energy, and money to develop something just for the sake of having it. How many people already own an ipod, or a cellphone that plays mp3's? I would have loved to have a kindle with all my text books on it!! I wish I could get all my manuals for work on it! I'd use it everyday for work as well!

Dave

daffy4u · 11-25-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by davers

My 2 cents: I think mp3's on the kindle is silly. It's just adding un-needed fluff to a good product. Don't waste time, energy, and money to develop something just for the sake of having it. How many people already own an ipod, or a cellphone that plays mp3's? I would have loved to have a kindle with all my text books on it!! I wish I could get all my manuals for work on it! I'd use it everyday for work as well!

Dave

It doesn't take away from the text aspect to be able to listen to mp3's some of which may be audiobooks. Since Amazon now owns Audible.com, they are making sure you can access their books in whatever form they sell them.

Alisa · 11-25-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

It doesn't take away from the text aspect to be able to listen to mp3's some of which may be audiobooks. Since Amazon now owns Audible.com, they are making sure you can access their books in whatever form they sell them.

I love listening to audiobooks but I've never used my Kindle for that. It's a bit big. If I'm going to listen on headphones, I want something I can put in a pocket and be able to move around. I normally listen while I'm walking or working out. I actually use my phone since I'm going to have it with me anyway if I'm out for a walk. I guess there's no harm in including it but it's not an ideal form factor, IMO.

RickyMaveety · 11-25-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

This won't work unless you break the DRM first. I don't have two Kindles to confirm this, but based on how MOBI/AZW DRM works, your current ebooks should be locked to the PID of your existing Kindle.

Since Amazon already allows multiple Kindles per account, it should be possible to register a Kindle 2 to that account and re-download your existing ebooks from Amazon (via the internet or via whispernet).

I agree that keeping a copy on your PC is a good idea, but these are insurance against Amazon getting out of the ebook business (which is unlikely - even though they have done this once before) and to allow you the option of switching to a non-Amazon ebook reader in the future.

No .... actually, you can register up to six Kindles to the same account. The books are keyed to your account, not a single Kindle. So, since I have a backup, it is very (very) simple to transfer the books to a second Kindle, and a third, and a fourth .... well, you get the idea.

daffy4u · 11-25-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

I love listening to audiobooks but I've never used my Kindle for that. It's a bit big. If I'm going to listen on headphones, I want something I can put in a pocket and be able to move around. I normally listen while I'm walking or working out. I actually use my phone since I'm going to have it with me anyway if I'm out for a walk. I guess there's no harm in including it but it's not an ideal form factor, IMO.

I don't use mine for audiobooks either though I have listened to a few podcasts on it. There are people who do use it that functionality.

If I can find an mp3 of white noise or rain sounds, I'd load them so that I could block out obnoxious sounds while I'm trying to read in some environments.

pilotbob · 11-25-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

No .... actually, you can register up to six Kindles to the same account. The books are keyed to your account, not a single Kindle.

No actually they are keyed to a specific Kindle. If you have more than one registered when you go online to download a book it asks you what Kindle it is for and encrypts it accordingly.

BOb

daffy4u · 11-25-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

No .... actually, you can register up to six Kindles to the same account. The books are keyed to your account, not a single Kindle. So, since I have a backup, it is very (very) simple to transfer the books to a second Kindle, and a third, and a fourth .... well, you get the idea.

Actually, you can register as many Kindles as you like to one account. Only 6 at a time can share the same content.

pilotbob · 11-25-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Actually, you can register as many Kindles as you like to one account. Only 6 at a time can share the same content.

I don't think so... only 6 can be registered at a time.

BOb

daffy4u · 11-25-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

I don't think so... only 6 can be registered at a time.

BOb

You were actually the person who pointed this out the first time I learned about it.

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Digital Rights Management Issues

* Content from the Kindle Store: Most books and other non-subscription items you purchase from the Kindle store may be downloaded for your personal use on to up to six Kindles registered to your Amazon.com account. If you have exceeded your download limit, you must purchase an additional copy of the title. Subscription content can only be downloaded to one Kindle at a time, and only the seven most recent issues will be available for redownload in the Kindle Content Manager or from the Manage Your Kindle page.

There is no limit to the number of Kindles you may register to your account.

Edit: Here's your post.

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Ah... so you can atually have more than 6 Kindles tied to your account, but only 6 at a time can have one book on them. Interesting.

BOb

Donnageddon · 11-25-2008, 03:17 PM

I smell a penguin vs duck fight brewing!

daffy4u · 11-25-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnageddon

I smell a penguin vs duck fight brewing!

No fight. We are birds after all, we're above all that nonsense.

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08-28-2008, 10:02 PM	#31
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	Yep. I think we've had it on pretty good authority that the screens won't be available in volume until spring 2009. I'm not holding my breath. Besides, I like having a smaller reader for novels. I want a larger one, too, for tech books, specs and such but I love having one the size of a paperback that I can easily carry around in my handbag for recreational reading. Edit: Oh and it looks like Amazon has now officially said no knew Kindles at all this year, big or small.

08-29-2008, 11:24 AM	#34
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Regarding reading and annotating PDF journal articles, I do this on my iLiad now and it works well, so I don't think we need much bigger screens than what are available today. One point that many people forget is that you can leave out the margins when displaying the PDF. (However, you lose some prime scribbling space that way.)

11-25-2008, 11:42 AM	#35
davers Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 6562 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony Dark Blue 505	My 2 cents: I think mp3's on the kindle is silly. It's just adding un-needed fluff to a good product. Don't waste time, energy, and money to develop something just for the sake of having it. How many people already own an ipod, or a cellphone that plays mp3's? I would have loved to have a kindle with all my text books on it!! I wish I could get all my manuals for work on it! I'd use it everyday for work as well! Dave

11-25-2008, 03:17 PM	#44
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	I smell a penguin vs duck fight brewing!