Apple iPad Event - 16 Oct 2014

[Prestidigitweeze]

Here's a bit of internet nostalgia:

FTFY.

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

Do-it-yourselfers are not Apple's target market for Macs as of 2012.

[Jack Torrance]

Originally Posted by afv011

I don't know where you're checking, but here up North you can get 8GB for less than $100. Apple charge $200 for the 8GB upgrade from 8 to 16. You may be comparing against buying 16GB, which is not the same.

Correct me if Im wrong but a Mac Mini installed with 8gb of ram (from the factory)has 2 4gb chips for a total of 8 if you want to upgrade to 16 you have to get 2 8gb chips. So while an 8gb upgrade is $100. Since you only have 2 slots to work with you have to can the 8gb in there unless you only replace 1 to get to 12.

[pidgeon92]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

Here's a bit of internet nostalgia:

FTFY.

Yeah, no. I remember my first Mac, purchased in 1989. The screws to get the thing apart were so buried so far into the machine they were still in China. Some of the later machines were easier to get into than others, but Apple never wanted you to actually open them.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

Yeah, no. I remember my first Mac, purchased in 1989. The screws to get the thing apart were so buried so far into the machine they were still in China. Some of the later machines were easier to get into than others, but Apple never wanted you to actually open them.

I seem to recall my PowerMac G3 and G4 towers having a big-arse handle to open up the case with, not even a screwdriver required.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

Correct me if Im wrong but a Mac Mini installed with 8gb of ram (from the factory)has 2 4gb chips for a total of 8 if you want to upgrade to 16 you have to get 2 8gb chips. So while an 8gb upgrade is $100. Since you only have 2 slots to work with you have to can the 8gb in there unless you only replace 1 to get to 12.

The bottom line is that buying a 8GB module costs less than $100, yet if you request an upgrade from 8GB to 16GB you'll be charged $200, see attachment.

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[Prestidigitweeze]

Originally Posted by meeera

I seem to recall my PowerMac G3 and G4 towers having a big-arse handle to open up the case with, not even a screwdriver required.

Exactly. Consumers voiced a lot of complaints about machines like the 7100. After that, 2nd-gen G3s, G4s and Mac Pros were easy to open by definition (since professionals have to be able to open and upgrade the computers on which they rely). My G4 was easier to crack than a school desk -- it was harder to keep the latch closed than ajar.

Later iterations of the Mac Pro were similarly easy to open and the third-party hardware industry flourished accordingly. You could even buy and install processor upgrades that weren't made by Apple.

Besides which, parts could always be swapped and RAM added until now. Even that notorious 7100 could be repaired by the user -- just as not easily as a comparable PC.

Apple's efforts to hermetically seal iPods, iPhones, then iPads -- not desktop and laptop computers -- were what led to this turning point for users.

Apple first perfected inviolable hardware in smaller consumer devices, then applied what they learned to their larger computers systematically. This was all very recent.

The 2012 Mac Pro was the final and most conspicuous insult. Apple can justify sealing smaller devices in the name of making them easier to handle, but there's no practical justification for closing off the hardware of a desktop mini-tower.

[Canuck_in_Japan]

It's quite interesting that Steve Jobs has been dead for a couple of years and Apple is getting more obstinate, not less about not letting people into their computers. He must have really surrounded himself with true believers.

[Prestidigitweeze]

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

It's quite interesting that Steve Jobs has been dead for a couple of years and Apple is getting more obstinate, not less about not letting people into their computers. He must have really surrounded himself with true believers.

Apple's culture of enforced inaccessibility should provoke a massive consumer exodus, like the one that chastened Sony Corporation after it crippled its pro and consumer recorders to appease its music and movie segments.

A desktop computer is not a compulsive juice fast. Jobs had some great ideas, but his obsessiveness led to pathological restrictions as easily as it did disarming innovations. Planned obsolescence is not a reasonable excuse for the total lack of access to the insides of large computers.

What if automobile manufacturers started doing that -- sealing off the hood and enclosing a car's internal parts in oblongs of airhole-riddled brushed metal? "You can still fill the radiator -- for now -- but no one's touching the battery."

[Fluribus]

Based upon the reviews I'm seeing, it looks like the Air 2 may have 2GB of RAM. Determined by usage and benchmark tools, not opening the device.

[tubemonkey]

I also wanna know if it'll blend like previous versions

[Fluribus]

Apparently, it does blend. And inside they found two 1GB RAM chips. Previous speculation had been one 2GB chip.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by Fluribus

Apparently, it does blend. And inside they found two 1GB RAM chips. Previous speculation had been one 2GB chip.

Finally, now we know for sure. With 2GB of RAM, I don't have any problems recommending it to my son. Now all he has to do is come up with $600

I was reading some comments over at MacRumors just now about the iFixit teardown and loved this comment about Apple's thinness obsession in reference to the smaller battery:

Imagine how thin it's going to be once they get rid of the battery altogether!

Originally Posted by meeera

I seem to recall my PowerMac G3 and G4 towers having a big-arse handle to open up the case with, not even a screwdriver required.

Yep, that was during the sans-Jobs era. As soon as he returned that ended.

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

Yeah, no. I remember my first Mac, purchased in 1989. The screws to get the thing apart were so buried so far into the machine they were still in China. Some of the later machines were easier to get into than others, but Apple never wanted you to actually open them.

The original Mac, Mac Plus, Mac SE, etc. all required a VERY long allen wrench to reach those buried screws. Thanks Jobs, some day I hope to piss on your grave. I'm really pissed that Apple continues along this path by now making the latest Mac Mini anything but a good deal. Back to Windows and that lovely message every third time I turn it on, "You have 785758555757457457547457 updates ready to install, and Adobe wants to know if they can totally eff up your computer at the same time with their bloatware crap."

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Back to Windows and that lovely message every third time I turn it on, "You have 785758555757457457547457 updates ready to install, and Adobe wants to know if they can totally eff up your computer at the same time with their bloatware crap."