Kindle Voyage - First Impressions - Page 28

JSWolf · 10-23-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Thank you. Hmmm... Not good.

I have a definite lag on the upper buttons.

You might find when propped up, that the touch screen is easier to use.

allochi · 10-23-2014, 04:04 PM

There should be a poll, something that shows how many got good vs bad devices, this way, people will not be scared and cancel their orders, just because they visited this forum and they see so many complains.

I have Kobo Aura, and I ordered Kindle Voyage to replace it, mine should come in 4th of November, I like the Kobo devices, and I was going to get the H2O for the resolution and screen size, but then I reconsidered for a better screen on the Kindle Voyage and the prices of books on Amazon.

The only Kindle PW2 that I have seens I didn't like, because it had strange color gradient from top to mid screen, and then it's white, but the text looked good (not the fronts though)

I hope there will be a poll, and that people can see the percentage of bad devices, this is also a good feedback to Amazon, after all, they have done nothing but improve the kindle devices year after year, they get paid for it, but they are doing a good job.

jswinden · 10-23-2014, 04:04 PM

I agree that the gradual, linear gradient issue is much less distracting than the seemingly random blotches on PW1s. It is still an issue though, especially since it makes the screen blue rather than cream or white, at least on my Voyage. The text is way better on the Voyage than it was on the PW1 or PW2, and that helps substantially. But over all the front lighting on eInks doesn't seem to work as well as back lighting does on LCDs. I'm not sure it ever will. I'm inclined to think it will never be as good.

jocampo · 10-23-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Yep, I guess some might consider it "anal" but I'm not sure I would use that term. I take no offense to the term though when used in this context. As a photographer enthusiast I notice things like hues and tints that are out of whack. I go to the trouble of setting a good white balance for photos to avoid tints as much as possible. So perhaps my eyes are trained to look for such things. But considering all the people who are seeing various tinting I'm guessing "non-anal" types can see it too if it exists on their device. The big question is how much tinting an individual will tolerate before it becomes too distracting to them. I'm still trying to determine that for my Voyage. I'm leaning toward keeping it. However I'm also a bit miffed that it is not really worth the $200 they cost due to the uneven screen tinting and shadows and the poor design of the PT buttons.

Same reasons why I can't tolerate that.

I do photographer stuff as hobby and saturation, hue, etc, drives me nuts when not correct.

Josieb1 · 10-23-2014, 04:09 PM

I've not cancelled yet but I'm close to it. I'm waiting for a PW2 to turn up tomorrow. I'm just not sure I can justify the extra cost of the Voyage anymore. Especially as no doubt all the issues this year will get fixed for next years release.

jswinden · 10-23-2014, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allochi

There should be a poll, something that shows how many got good vs bad devices, this way, people will not be scared and cancel their orders, just because they visited this forum and they see so many complains.

I have Kobo Aura, and I ordered Kindle Voyage to replace it, mine should come in 4th of November, I like the Kobo devices, and I was going to get the H2O for the resolution and screen size, but then I reconsidered for a better screen on the Kindle Voyage and the prices of books on Amazon.

The only Kindle PW2 that I have seens I didn't like, because it had strange color gradient from top to mid screen, and then it's white, but the text looked good (not the fronts though)

I hope there will be a poll, and that people can see the percentage of bad devices, this is also a good feedback to Amazon, after all, they have done nothing but improve the kindle devices year after year, they get paid for it, but they are doing a good job.

Well, you can create a poll here yourself. It is easy to do. I think everyone who ordered a Voyage should keep it ordered and test it out for themselves. That goes for any product actually. Anyone who makes a decision based solely on what a bunch of anonymous strangers have to say probably needs to rethink their decision process!

negris123 · 10-23-2014, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allochi

There should be a poll, something that shows how many got good vs bad devices, this way, people will not be scared and cancel their orders, just because they visited this forum and they see so many complains.

I have Kobo Aura, and I ordered Kindle Voyage to replace it, mine should come in 4th of November, I like the Kobo devices, and I was going to get the H2O for the resolution and screen size, but then I reconsidered for a better screen on the Kindle Voyage and the prices of books on Amazon.

The only Kindle PW2 that I have seens I didn't like, because it had strange color gradient from top to mid screen, and then it's white, but the text looked good (not the fronts though)

I hope there will be a poll, and that people can see the percentage of bad devices, this is also a good feedback to Amazon, after all, they have done nothing but improve the kindle devices year after year, they get paid for it, but they are doing a good job.

I think a poll is a good idea. It could help me decide if I want to reorder the voyage. So far I see too many negative reviews, but maybe the people that received good devices are not speaking up.

Pomtroll · 10-23-2014, 04:57 PM

Got mine today. I got the 3G unit. It came a week earlier than predicted. So far I like it. I do like having an on & off button again. Don't know why they put it on the back. The side buttons for turning pages work well, but I' more used to using the touch screen. I do like the flush screen. And so far no splotchiness or discoloring on my screen. Over all I'm happy with it.

pghaworth · 10-23-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

Same reasons why I can't tolerate that. I do photographer stuff as hobby and saturation, hue, etc, drives me nuts when not correct.

Same here, and not matter what I do to try to correct it, I can ultimately still see it and it pulls my attention from reading.

jswinden · 10-23-2014, 05:29 PM

Here is a photo of my Voyage. Color is fairly accurate in the photo. Text is sharper though as I didn't get the focus as sharp as I should have.

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WilliamG · 10-23-2014, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Here is a photo of my Voyage. Color is fairly accurate in the photo. Text is sharper though as I didn't get the focus as sharp as I should have.

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Thanks for the picture. Yep, that looks about what they all look like. I just couldn't read on it, personally.

soondai · 10-23-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I've not cancelled yet but I'm close to it. I'm waiting for a PW2 to turn up tomorrow. I'm just not sure I can justify the extra cost of the Voyage anymore. Especially as no doubt all the issues this year will get fixed for next years release.

Yeah, at this point I think I'd wait until the second iteration of anything new Amazon puts out. I'm sure if they don't throw in the towel they might get a good phone out next year as well.

Hopefully by then they might go back to 2 kindle models, ditch the paperwhite, and charge a more reasonable price for the V2 (at $150 it might fly like a rocket...hardyharhar)

jswinden · 10-23-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamG

Thanks for the picture. Yep, that looks about what they all look like. I just couldn't read on it, personally.

It isn't too bad reading while in portrait mode as the gradient gradually changes from top to bottom, so each line starts and ends within the same color/tint. However, when I turn it into landscape mode it becomes rather problematic as with each line you cover the entire gradient. I like holding the Voyage left handed (I'm a southpaw) in Landscape because the bottom of the bezel is the largest bezel area and provides plenty of room to rest my thumb without touching the screen. But having my eyes constantly going back and forth across the gradient causes eyestrain.

pghaworth · 10-23-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamG

Thanks for the picture. Yep, that looks about what they all look like. I just couldn't read on it, personally.

I couldn't either. Replacement coming. I won't stay on the merry-go-round, but I will give it one spin.

geekaren · 10-23-2014, 06:37 PM

I received the replacement Voyage 3g late this afternoon. The screen has a much more consistent "cream" tone throughout (vs the diagonal orangish / bluish tones on the 1st Voyage I received).

I'm happy with the replacement. I loved the consistent tone of my PW2 but found my eyes would get tired because the fonts were ever so slightly blurry. The Voyage's crisper fonts are the main reason I wanted to upgrade. (I'm not a physical turn button person -- I'm fine with swiping the screen to turn pages.)

As others have mentioned, I initially thought the origami cover was odd but have found it works great.

I'm happy for those who've received Voyages without any obvious defects, and hope that everyone wanting a Voyage gets a good one!

10-23-2014, 04:04 PM	#407
allochi Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 6770 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: Kobo Aura	Poll There should be a poll, something that shows how many got good vs bad devices, this way, people will not be scared and cancel their orders, just because they visited this forum and they see so many complains. I have Kobo Aura, and I ordered Kindle Voyage to replace it, mine should come in 4th of November, I like the Kobo devices, and I was going to get the H2O for the resolution and screen size, but then I reconsidered for a better screen on the Kindle Voyage and the prices of books on Amazon. The only Kindle PW2 that I have seens I didn't like, because it had strange color gradient from top to mid screen, and then it's white, but the text looked good (not the fronts though) I hope there will be a poll, and that people can see the percentage of bad devices, this is also a good feedback to Amazon, after all, they have done nothing but improve the kindle devices year after year, they get paid for it, but they are doing a good job.

10-23-2014, 04:09 PM	#410
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,090 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2, Clara BW	I've not cancelled yet but I'm close to it. I'm waiting for a PW2 to turn up tomorrow. I'm just not sure I can justify the extra cost of the Voyage anymore. Especially as no doubt all the issues this year will get fixed for next years release. Last edited by Josieb1; 10-23-2014 at 04:17 PM.

10-23-2014, 05:29 PM	#415
jswinden Nameless Being	Here is a photo of my Voyage. Color is fairly accurate in the photo. Text is sharper though as I didn't get the focus as sharp as I should have. .... Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jswinden; 10-23-2014 at 05:41 PM.

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10-23-2014, 04:04 PM	#408
jswinden Nameless Being	I agree that the gradual, linear gradient issue is much less distracting than the seemingly random blotches on PW1s. It is still an issue though, especially since it makes the screen blue rather than cream or white, at least on my Voyage. The text is way better on the Voyage than it was on the PW1 or PW2, and that helps substantially. But over all the front lighting on eInks doesn't seem to work as well as back lighting does on LCDs. I'm not sure it ever will. I'm inclined to think it will never be as good.

10-23-2014, 04:57 PM	#413
Pomtroll Guru Posts: 822 Karma: 1341819 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Minnesota USA Device: Sony 350, Sony T1, Kindle Touch, Kindle PW1	Got mine today. I got the 3G unit. It came a week earlier than predicted. So far I like it. I do like having an on & off button again. Don't know why they put it on the back. The side buttons for turning pages work well, but I' more used to using the touch screen. I do like the flush screen. And so far no splotchiness or discoloring on my screen. Over all I'm happy with it.

10-23-2014, 06:37 PM	#420
geekaren geek Posts: 82 Karma: 79336 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New England, U.S. Device: Oasis (1&2), Voyage, Kindle Touch, iPad Mini 4	I received the replacement Voyage 3g late this afternoon. The screen has a much more consistent "cream" tone throughout (vs the diagonal orangish / bluish tones on the 1st Voyage I received). I'm happy with the replacement. I loved the consistent tone of my PW2 but found my eyes would get tired because the fonts were ever so slightly blurry. The Voyage's crisper fonts are the main reason I wanted to upgrade. (I'm not a physical turn button person -- I'm fine with swiping the screen to turn pages.) As others have mentioned, I initially thought the origami cover was odd but have found it works great. I'm happy for those who've received Voyages without any obvious defects, and hope that everyone wanting a Voyage gets a good one!