About "remove formatting"

kbanelas · 10-22-2014, 03:33 PM

Hi!!
I'm glad to use Sigil, it's a very good application. But, there is always a but...
If you want a html text clean, Sigil has an option for this business, but this option also removes for example, the italic and bold marks, or the marks of ordered list. I think this is a bless, but it could be your curse.
Perhaps this "remove formatting" option is excessive in all cases.
Perhaps an option that let you choose whether remove these marks in the html code would be a good idea. An option where shall the html code simplify but not so wildly.
Cheers!!

Toxaris · 10-22-2014, 04:13 PM

Clean is clean. If you want clean html with formatting, ensure that the source is clean.

eschwartz · 10-22-2014, 04:29 PM

Which arbitrary definition of what should be kept should we use???

Perhaps you'd like to write a highly-configurable Sigil plugin to do this specialized job.

Doitsu · 10-23-2014, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

Perhaps an option that let you choose whether remove these marks in the html code would be a good idea. An option where shall the html code simplify but not so wildly.

Simply select Pretty Print Tidy (Edit > Preferences > Clean Source > Pretty Print Tidy) and nothing will be changed. (The code will only be reformatted.)

If you have specific ideas about what should be changed, have a look at the Saved Searches help topic.

(Saved Searches allows you to run a group of search and replace actions.)

kbanelas · 10-23-2014, 03:00 AM

Ei, hello!!

Thanks for your answers.

Toxaris, I don't know what application should I use as source to get more clean html code. I'm usually patient, and I write step by step all the code but this is very very slow. Copying from an application (that I know) and pasting to Sigil, the html code is not much clean.

eschwartz, I don't ask a mega-configurable plugin, I'm only saying, in this comment, that Sigil could have an option that cleans the code but keeping the bold, italic or underline tags. All this for gain time.

Doitsu, ok, I'm having a look at the Saved Searches help.

Thanks again for your time.

Cheers!

Toxaris · 10-23-2014, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

Toxaris, I don't know what application should I use as source to get more clean html code. I'm usually patient, and I write step by step all the code but this is very very slow. Copying from an application (that I know) and pasting to Sigil, the html code is not much clean.

What is the application? Copy and pasting is usually not a very good way to get content into Sigil, although sometimes it works just fine.

What you can do of course, is first with some good regex replace the formatting you want to keep into markers, remove formatting and then replace the markers back to the formatting. If you combine the regex in the saved searches, you can execute all replacements in one go.

kbanelas · 10-23-2014, 12:29 PM

Toxaris, excuse me, I'm not an usual English speaker but I'm doing everything what I can.

Ok guys!!

I'm going to do a plugin... I'm already reading a python tutorial...
But I think that I will need a bit of help...hehe

Seriously, I have wrote a Python script but Sigil say: Error, plugin not a valid sigil plugin.
I have compared with another plugin and I don't know what happens, because my plugin is a zip with 3 files (.sh,.bat and .py) and everything looks like correct.

After I have proved the reference plugin and oops!! it also doesn't work... but I'm sure it worked because I have read more plugins with the same structure.

I'm using Sigil 0.8.1.

How can I know the right structure for my plugin?

Thanks and cheers!

Toxaris · 10-23-2014, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

Toxaris, excuse me, I'm not an usual English speaker but I'm doing everything what I can.

Not quite sure what you were thinking I was saying here... I was just asking what the application was you have your source in/copied from.

I haven't written a plugin yet, that is on the agenda for next month I hope.

kbanelas · 10-23-2014, 03:41 PM

Hi!!
Ei, Toxaris don't worry.
I effectively understood what does application mean? and I thought that application isn't an english term, and nothing else.
Don't worry be happy!!
I hope that your plugin be better than mine because the mine doesn't work... for the moment... hehe

Regards!!

Doitsu · 10-23-2014, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

Seriously, I have wrote a Python script but Sigil say: Error, plugin not a valid sigil plugin.
I have compared with another plugin and I don't know what happens, because my plugin is a zip with 3 files (.sh,.bat and .py) and everything looks like correct.

Did you look at Calibre plugins by any chance? Sigil plugins don't use shell scripts or batch files. However, each of them must contain at least two files:

plugin.py (contains the code)
plugin.xml (contains the description)

I've attached a very simple proof-of-concept plugin that only displays 'Hello World'. If it doesn't work on your machine, you're most likely using a custom Linux build or accidentally moved or deleted the Plugin Runner Python files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

After I have proved the reference plugin and oops!! it also doesn't work... but I'm sure it worked because I have read more plugins with the same structure.
How can I know the right structure for my plugin?

The plugin structure is explained in the Plugin Framework Guide.

kbanelas · 10-24-2014, 03:09 AM

Hi Doitsu!!

Thanks a lot for the information!!
I will try to do this plugin, I hope!
Regards

Notjohn · 10-24-2014, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

I don't know what application should I use as source to get more clean html code.

As others have said, that depends on what software you're using. If you write in Microsoft Word, you can turn it into very good html by pasting the Word doc into word2cleanhtml dot com online. Then open (don't paste!) the clean html in Sigil. This is what I do, and I'm not very good about using Word styles--I mostly just hack away, but word2cleanhtml does wonders with it.

Toxaris · 10-24-2014, 07:37 AM

I use my add-in for Word of course. It will even create an ePUB for you from a Word document and give a lot of other tool goodies. And, the code is clean.

kbanelas · 10-24-2014, 02:21 PM

Hi!!
Ei guys!! Thanks for your comments!!
But I don't use Word for my texts!! I always use Write.
On the other hand, I have wrote a Python script which works quite well and I only need resolve one question:
How can I open/write the current open file? I have read the Plugin Framework Guide and I haven't found something specific about it and I'm something lost.
I'm sure you can help me!
Cheers!

Doitsu · 10-24-2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbanelas

How can I open/write the current open file? I have read the Plugin Framework Guide and I haven't found something specific about it and I'm something lost.

AFAIK, you can't detect the current file, you'll either have to write a file selection dialog and select the files that you want to change or apply your code to all .html files.

For an example, have a look at DiapDealer's Smarten Punctuation plugin.

What exactly does your plugin do?

10-22-2014, 03:33 PM	#1
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	About "remove formatting" Hi!! I'm glad to use Sigil, it's a very good application. But, there is always a but... If you want a html text clean, Sigil has an option for this business, but this option also removes for example, the italic and bold marks, or the marks of ordered list. I think this is a bless, but it could be your curse. Perhaps this "remove formatting" option is excessive in all cases. Perhaps an option that let you choose whether remove these marks in the html code would be a good idea. An option where shall the html code simplify but not so wildly. Cheers!!

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10-22-2014, 04:13 PM	#2
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Clean is clean. If you want clean html with formatting, ensure that the source is clean.

10-22-2014, 04:29 PM	#3
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Which arbitrary definition of what should be kept should we use??? Perhaps you'd like to write a highly-configurable Sigil plugin to do this specialized job.

10-23-2014, 03:00 AM	#5
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	Ei, hello!! Thanks for your answers. Toxaris, I don't know what application should I use as source to get more clean html code. I'm usually patient, and I write step by step all the code but this is very very slow. Copying from an application (that I know) and pasting to Sigil, the html code is not much clean. eschwartz, I don't ask a mega-configurable plugin, I'm only saying, in this comment, that Sigil could have an option that cleans the code but keeping the bold, italic or underline tags. All this for gain time. Doitsu, ok, I'm having a look at the Saved Searches help. Thanks again for your time. Cheers!

10-23-2014, 12:29 PM	#7
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	Toxaris, excuse me, I'm not an usual English speaker but I'm doing everything what I can. Ok guys!! I'm going to do a plugin... I'm already reading a python tutorial... But I think that I will need a bit of help...hehe Seriously, I have wrote a Python script but Sigil say: Error, plugin not a valid sigil plugin. I have compared with another plugin and I don't know what happens, because my plugin is a zip with 3 files (.sh,.bat and .py) and everything looks like correct. After I have proved the reference plugin and oops!! it also doesn't work... but I'm sure it worked because I have read more plugins with the same structure. I'm using Sigil 0.8.1. How can I know the right structure for my plugin? Thanks and cheers!

10-23-2014, 03:41 PM	#9
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	Hi!! Ei, Toxaris don't worry. I effectively understood what does application mean? and I thought that application isn't an english term, and nothing else. Don't worry be happy!! I hope that your plugin be better than mine because the mine doesn't work... for the moment... hehe Regards!!

10-24-2014, 03:09 AM	#11
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	Hi Doitsu!! Thanks a lot for the information!! I will try to do this plugin, I hope! Regards

10-24-2014, 07:37 AM	#13
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	I use my add-in for Word of course. It will even create an ePUB for you from a Word document and give a lot of other tool goodies. And, the code is clean.

10-24-2014, 02:21 PM	#14
kbanelas Member Posts: 13 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: bq cervantes	Hi!! Ei guys!! Thanks for your comments!! But I don't use Word for my texts!! I always use Write. On the other hand, I have wrote a Python script which works quite well and I only need resolve one question: How can I open/write the current open file? I have read the Plugin Framework Guide and I haven't found something specific about it and I'm something lost. I'm sure you can help me! Cheers!