Kindle Voyage - First Impressions - Page 23

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David Marseilles

It's a very unfortunate focus for device makers, this obsession with thin over ergonomics. It's sad to hear your and pghaworth's experiences. One of the big factors that might get me to order a Voyager someday is a reduction in weight vs my NTB + the lighted case. That case is unnecessarily hefty. But if the ergonomics aren't there... a case to soften the edges wouldn't help me. I'd just be adding that weight back and paying a whole lot for the privilege.

Exactly. That's why I don't use a case. Using one tires out my hand and makes it hurt. Same difference, why bother.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 10:33 PM

The one caveat to the problems I'm experiencing is that if I turn off the PT buttons (and why should I have to, that's why I bought it), I can give it a death grip and hold it. That said, eventually my hand will cramp.

xendula · 10-22-2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

The one caveat to the problems I'm experiencing is that if I turn off the PT buttons (and why should I have to, that's why I bought it)...

That's exactly my thinking. I was all excited for PT buttons, and am so sick of the accidental page turns or trying to press the wrong place on the bezel, that i am considering just turning them off. Their design and plaecement are a total fail. When we asked to get PT buttons back we meant actual BUTTONS.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 11:06 PM

I've already ordered my PW2. It will be here Friday. I can't wait to send this turkey back.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xendula

TWhen we asked to get PT buttons back we meant actual BUTTONS.

Thank you. To slick to hold and do turns. I'm sad to say my Voyage was short and sweet.

Next. You'll find me on the what's next with Kindle thread... LOL

evanft · 10-22-2014, 11:27 PM

My $69 Kindle 4NT from 2012 has better page turn buttons than the brand new $200 Voyage.

Let that sink in for a moment.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by evanft

My $69 Kindle 4NT from 2012 has better page turn buttons than the brand new $200 Voyage.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Sooooo well said that it's shameful!

evanft · 10-22-2014, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Sooooo well said that it's shameful!

I still maintain that the K4NT was the best designed ereader of all time. The only thing I'd add would be a higher res screen and maybe a capacitive touch screen.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by evanft

I still maintain that the K4NT was the best designed ereader of all time. The only thing I'd add would be a higher res screen and maybe a capacitive touch screen.

I really need the light. I have adjusted to the touch nicely, but I need that light. My K3 is good, page turn buttons and all. If it had a light I'd be okay, but hardware buttons without glass are a must for me.

evanft · 10-22-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

I really need the light. I have adjusted to the touch nicely, but I need that light. My K3 is good, page turn buttons and all. If it had a light I'd be okay, but hardware buttons without glass are a must for me.

Oh, I forgot about the light. Throw that in as well.

pghaworth · 10-22-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by evanft

Oh, I forgot about the light. Throw that in as well.

Thank you! I'll take mine to go!

Josieb1 · 10-23-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Is a "patch" in the works or already available?

Patching for full screen reading on the H20 is very simple. It's the first thing I do.

My picture on post 196 page 14 shows a patched Aura.

Only thing is the patch can display cut off letters at the end occasionally, when that happens I just change to another font and it fixes it, then go back to my Charis Modifed Larger font a little latter and it's fine. It's a bit of a quirk.

SCION · 10-23-2014, 12:33 AM

After using the device in different reading conditions I decided the defect is not acceptable. It's noticeable. Period.

Spoke to Amazon (love how they call you in 5 minutes!) and told the representative about the discoloration. She didn't sound surprised. Leads me to believe the reps have been put on alert. Of course she promptly offered to send me a replacement, but it's out of stock (sounded like she knew this already, but went through the motion of checking anyway). Because she can't send a replacement, she issued a refund without me asking. Just like that. Advised me to place an order for another Voyage scheduled to ship end of November, which I did. Received two emails immediately after the call ended. A confirmation of the refund and a return shipping label.

Consistently amazing customer service. You get 30 days to return the device, so I'll keep using it for the time being. Perhaps the November ship date will be bumped up.

Crodley · 10-23-2014, 12:48 AM

Yeah, my Voyage was supposed to arrive Nov 26th, but I canceled it after reading all the problems a lot of people are having here.

My last Kindle was a Kindle 2, so the Paperwhite I just now ordered from Amazon (PW2, right? The 1 isn't being made anymore?) will get here on Friday too. I'm sure the change from the Kindle 2 to the Paperwhite 2 will look amazing to me with no regrets.

judith009 · 10-23-2014, 02:03 AM

I jumped from the K3 to the Voyage. I haven't had experience with the backlit kindles before.

Has anyone had problems reading on the Voyage in the dark? Somehow it constantly bothers my eyes, no matter how I adjust the backlight levels. For example my iPod screen seems much easier to read on (if only the backlight wasn't so bright on the iPod).

When I'm reading on the Voyage in the dark it seems like the white part of the screen becomes many shades of grey, making the text not stand out as much. Is this a common problem? Am I doing something wrong?

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10-22-2014, 10:33 PM	#332
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	The one caveat to the problems I'm experiencing is that if I turn off the PT buttons (and why should I have to, that's why I bought it), I can give it a death grip and hold it. That said, eventually my hand will cramp.

10-22-2014, 11:06 PM	#334
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	I've already ordered my PW2. It will be here Friday. I can't wait to send this turkey back.

10-22-2014, 11:27 PM	#336
evanft Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 695156 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: Kindle 4 NT	My $69 Kindle 4NT from 2012 has better page turn buttons than the brand new $200 Voyage. Let that sink in for a moment.

10-23-2014, 12:33 AM	#343
SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	After using the device in different reading conditions I decided the defect is not acceptable. It's noticeable. Period. Spoke to Amazon (love how they call you in 5 minutes!) and told the representative about the discoloration. She didn't sound surprised. Leads me to believe the reps have been put on alert. Of course she promptly offered to send me a replacement, but it's out of stock (sounded like she knew this already, but went through the motion of checking anyway). Because she can't send a replacement, she issued a refund without me asking. Just like that. Advised me to place an order for another Voyage scheduled to ship end of November, which I did. Received two emails immediately after the call ended. A confirmation of the refund and a return shipping label. Consistently amazing customer service. You get 30 days to return the device, so I'll keep using it for the time being. Perhaps the November ship date will be bumped up.

10-23-2014, 12:48 AM	#344
Crodley Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: None	Yeah, my Voyage was supposed to arrive Nov 26th, but I canceled it after reading all the problems a lot of people are having here. My last Kindle was a Kindle 2, so the Paperwhite I just now ordered from Amazon (PW2, right? The 1 isn't being made anymore?) will get here on Friday too. I'm sure the change from the Kindle 2 to the Paperwhite 2 will look amazing to me with no regrets.

10-23-2014, 02:03 AM	#345
judith009 Groupie Posts: 151 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Voyage	I jumped from the K3 to the Voyage. I haven't had experience with the backlit kindles before. Has anyone had problems reading on the Voyage in the dark? Somehow it constantly bothers my eyes, no matter how I adjust the backlight levels. For example my iPod screen seems much easier to read on (if only the backlight wasn't so bright on the iPod). When I'm reading on the Voyage in the dark it seems like the white part of the screen becomes many shades of grey, making the text not stand out as much. Is this a common problem? Am I doing something wrong?