Unutterably Silly So what are you doing RIGHT NOW?

[vivaldirules]

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Oh, hey .... still reeling from the shock of my life. I accidentally bit into a piece of tomato (in a sandwich someone else made for me without knowing about my allergies) and .... nothing happened.

I've been through the throat tightening up and tongue swelling and lungs shutting down so many times it's really almost a drill with me .... but .... nothing .... happened.

However, I didn't like the taste much. Still .... nothing???

It was probably just an onion masquerading as a tomato. No, no. Let's not go there. Never mind.

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Oh, hey .... still reeling from the shock of my life. I accidentally bit into a piece of tomato (in a sandwich someone else made for me without knowing about my allergies) and .... nothing happened.

I've been through the throat tightening up and tongue swelling and lungs shutting down so many times it's really almost a drill with me .... but .... nothing .... happened.

However, I didn't like the taste much. Still .... nothing???

They taste far better cooked, imo

(glad nothing happened )

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I tried Firefox and Opera because I'd heard good reports.
But, for what I need a browser to do, they didn't seem any better (worse in some ways); so I'm back with IE now.

oh !! oh !! it's like a dagger to my heart.

trust me : ie is worse, in so many ways i won't even try to list them, but here are a couple you might be interested in :

- security. oh, the many many security holes. danger, will robinson.
- display : ie plays it fast and loose with the markup language we use to make lovely websites. slightly less in v7 than in v6, but still. this means that when we make a site, we often have to make the site the way it *should* be made first (using proper, valid code and following best practices), then test it out in ie and corrupt our lovely valid code with hacks (oh, the many many ugly hacks befouling our lovely elegant code) until it looks and acts the way we intended in ie as well as in ff. if fewer people used ie, perhaps we wouldn't have to do this anymore, because 1. perhaps eventually the market share would dwindle to negligible and we could just pretend ie didn't exist and stop writing extra code for it altogether (i can dream can't i ?) 2. perhaps M$ would eventually be obligated to make a browser that ACTUALLY RESPECTED THE WEBSTANDARDS the way they're all supposed to (sheesh). (again : dreaming, no doubt).

in the meantime, use firefox. it's the only answer.

(and i could go on, so be thankful i didn't)

[desertgrandma]

ON my way to the post office to mail the last of the Christmas gifts...........

I RULE!!!!

(As does Firefox..........)

[RickyMaveety]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I tried Firefox and Opera because I'd heard good reports.
But, for what I need a browser to do, they didn't seem any better (worse in some ways); so I'm back with IE now.

Well, ya gotta go with what works for you. That's always the best route.

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

It was probably just an onion masquerading as a tomato. No, no. Let's not go there. Never mind.

Too late. You went there. No, not an onion ... I would have noticed.

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

They taste far better cooked, imo

(glad nothing happened )

I can eat them cooked, whatever it is that I have always been allergic to is destroyed by heat. But ... it's just so damn strange. I have been allergic to raw tomato ever since I was little. Just one seed would throw me into anaphylactic shock. In fact, I had a little scare just a few months ago that put me into the ER.

Allergies don't just poof disappear like that ... so it's just bizarre. I'm used to my body doing bizarre things .... it never has skewed as "normal" on anyone's scale .... but this is beyond weird.

[mtravellerh]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

in the meantime, use firefox. it's the only answer.

(and i could go on, so be thankful i didn't)

I would love to support you on this one, but the newest version of Firefox is, for sure, not the most stable application in this whole wide world, to put it mildly (no, please do not kill me).

I am not an IE supporter, either. I mainly use Opera and occasionally Firefox.

[mtravellerh]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

ON my way to the post office to mail the last of the Christmas gifts...........

I RULE!!!!

(As does Firefox..........)

You really are. To think that I haven't even begun to think abut gifts. It's still a month till Xmas, is it not?

[RWood]

According to the statistics, 80% of the people who visit my web site use IE. I did a poll of my clients and over 60% of those use Firefox. Therefore I conclude, Firefox users are the most intelligent ones on the Internet. (Those are true numbers.)

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by mtravellerh

I would love to support you on this one, but the newest version of Firefox is, for sure, not the most stable application in this whole wide world, to put it mildly (no, please do not kill me).

I am not an IE supporter, either. I mainly use Opera and occasionally Firefox.

well, there is no *perfect* browser. firefox also has issues. however it is far closer to perfect than ie. but hey, opera, firefox, safari... whatever you like, as long as it's not ie. and it does have a lot of qualities which easily make up for its flaws.

Originally Posted by RWood

According to the statistics, 80% of the people who visit my web site use IE. I did a poll of my clients and over 60% of those use Firefox. Therefore I conclude, Firefox users are the most intelligent ones on the Internet. (Those are true numbers.)

there we go : proof.

[RWood]

Therefore I test under Firefox and at the end as long as it doesn't look too horrible in IE I put it up. I refuse to spend a great deal of time making it look pretty for the minority of my clients that use IE. If they were to complain, I can imagine myself saying something like, "Just upgrade your browser to Firefox and see the web as it was intended to be viewed."

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by RWood

Therefore I test under Firefox and at the end as long as it doesn't look too horrible in IE I put it up. I refuse to spend a great deal of time making it look pretty for the minority of my clients that use IE. If they were to complain, I can imagine myself saying something like, "Just upgrade your browser to Firefox and see the web as it was intended to be viewed."

and that, ladies and gentlemen, is how it SHOULD be done.

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by RWood

Therefore I test under Firefox and at the end as long as it doesn't look too horrible in IE I put it up. I refuse to spend a great deal of time making it look pretty for the minority of my clients that use IE. If they were to complain, I can imagine myself saying something like, "Just upgrade your browser to Firefox and see the web as it was intended to be viewed."

And given the amount of websites that me I'd get a far better experience browsing the web (or at least their tiny part of it) using IE, you'd be well justified in doing so

If it's a sales site I occasionally blat them an e-mail explaining how they've lost custom because of their attitudes.

PS Opera rules

[RWood]

I am self employed and not a web designer. All I ask from my web site is to present an overview of what I do and who I am. The goal of the web site is to get interested people who have a need for my services to call me to discuss their situation in greater depth.

[mjh215]

I've always had the opinion that people that know what they are doing use Opera or Firefox (or Safari if on Mac). The question of which one is better out of Opera or Fx (the abbrev. is not FF ) tends to simply be which one a person used first. Both are great browsers. Each has their own benefits and quirks. My days on the web went from Lynx > IBM Web Explorer > Netscape > Opera. Firefox was years off of being out when I started using Opera so that is what I became familiar with.

-MJ

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Well, ya gotta go with what works for you. That's always the best route.



Too late. You went there. No, not an onion ... I would have noticed.



I can eat them cooked, whatever it is that I have always been allergic to is destroyed by heat. But ... it's just so damn strange. I have been allergic to raw tomato ever since I was little. Just one seed would throw me into anaphylactic shock. In fact, I had a little scare just a few months ago that put me into the ER.

Allergies don't just poof disappear like that ... so it's just bizarre. I'm used to my body doing bizarre things .... it never has skewed as "normal" on anyone's scale .... but this is beyond weird.

Obviously, you got a mutant tomato. Whatever cultivar that was on your sandwich, it was missing (or mutated beyond your immune system's ability to recognize) the protein that you are allergic to. Since that protein is not something that was being selected for in commercial (in)breeding, it's just the luck of the draw that the protein was mutated in that particular cultivar/plant.