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And again--this was not introducing a new reader to my work. She knew all about my work. I recognize what "discovery" is and that it can be useful, but in that case, there is Lendleme and other lending sites that fulfill that purpose in many cases (certainly in my case if not the big 6). Buy a kindle copy and lend it that way. There are ways to discover books without inadvertently sending out random copies. People who "give" copies away may think they are helping the author by helping spread the word, but the real way to help an author is to gift a copy of the book. If you (general you) don't like the book enough to gift the copy, then it's easy--don't give it. I realize not everyone is going to agree with my stance and I accept that. But I felt compelled to tell my side of the story. It's okay if you don't agree; I just wanted my feelings out there. I do gift copies of my book quite often so that people have a chance to "discover" me. I have no heartburn with Lendleme and other sites. I often list my own books there so that people can borrow them. It's a huge, huge morale hit when I see people post things like "I figured out how to send this book. Do you want a copy? I'll give it to you!" Or a more recent "Scandal" where there was a rash of returns going on--and blogs and threads saying "Amazon really doesn't care how many books you return. I've read several series now and returned each book and they haven't said a word. As long as you're within the seven days..." Sure, that catches up with them. But it does nothing for a writer's motivation, let me tell you. |
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And that is where DRM can help an author when it comes to casual sharing. It stops willy before it becomes nilly. |
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I do share eBooks. But I only share with those I know are not going to give them out. That would just be family.
I know pBooks do sometimes go further then just sharing eBooks with family. And you know what, it's women that do the sharing. They buy a pBook, share it with friends who then share it with other friends and so on. Men don't do that nearly as much as women. If I share an eBook with my mother, she wouldn't know how to remove the eBook from her Reader to give to someone else. So I know I'm not contributing to the eBook getting out by casual sharing. Even if the eBook didn't make it on the net to be shared, it could get out a lot as you give it to one friend who gives it to another friend who gives to two more friends and so on. The biggest problem with DRM is that it does restrict what you can do with an eBook. If we only had ePub and not Mobi and KF8, it would make life a lot more easy. I do know some that have learned to remove DRM because the eBooks are not compatible. They learned to strip because the ePub is not compatible with the Kindle and the AZW3 is not compatible with the ePub Reader. So actually, it's Amazon & B&N helping to contribute to this because they decided to go with different DRM and/or a different format. So you the techie buys a Kobo and because you feel the Kindle is easier to use for your Mother, she gets a Kindle. So you buy an ePub eBook and then you cannot give it to your mother, so you learn to strip the DRM when you might not have otherwise. Then you think of giving it to your friend down the road who gives it out and so on. I'm not saying it's totally Amazon & B&N's fault, but they don't help at all. |
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I have specifically asked Amazon this, and they're happy for anyone to read your books, so long as they do it on an authorised device.
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![]() Even if you truly (and unfortunately) believe that tripe, Jon, why would you think sharing it was a good idea? Wow! |
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The big question is whether casual sharing gets you more sales from new readers than you lose through casual sharing between people who have already read one or more of your books. I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. |
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And I wasn't talking morals. I was talking my morale when it happens. |
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What do you mean we can't know? What about doing empirical studies? What about looking at the studies that have been done?
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So we have the argument that goes round and round. And all I can state that for me personally, as an author, I ask people not to share. Feel free to review, lend via lendleme type sites or Amazon or B&N, tell people about the book, blog it, ask your library to buy it, etc. Please don't share it by way of copying and "giving" my books away. My attitude may be keeping me from getting new fans. I'll take my chances. If people want to try my work for free, there are numerous chances at my blog store via free short stories by myself and other writers who have chosen to make their short stories available there. There is sampling available at all the retailers. If a reviewer wants a review copy, they only need to ask/show intent to honestly review. Both my series are available in print at around 6 libraries. Request an Interlibrary loan. There are many ways to get legal copies. |
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It seems you are saying that if a drug cure an illness 99% of the cases then we cannot know if it will work in the individual case so we should not take the drug. If we empirically show that friend-sharing of books increases sales in most cases in the long run then it seems to me that the rational thing is to be happy about sharing. |
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withdrawn for rethinking
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With all due respect to authors and their right to be paid for their work, I believe the practice of "casually sharing books" to be far too ingrained in our reading culture/history for there to be any hope of a renaissance simply because of a medium shift from physical to digital.
Any publisher or author who truly believes their ultimate success/failure hinges on changing that cultural mindset (or on educating the masses on the differences between handing a book to someone and copying a file for them) should probably consider not producing ebooks at all. I don't say that to be mean, I just honestly believe it. We have always shared our favorite stories/authors with those close to us, and we will very likely always want/try to continue to do so. Whether via paper or electrons. I've tried really hard, but I just can't view it as a "bad" thing. |
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