Adobe DE 4 spies on users

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cromag

I suppose it would be bad form for me to edit the metadata in my ebooks to include, "Arrgh, matey! This be a pirated file!"

Just to brighten their day over at Adobe.

Go for it. Buy an eBook from Tor and edit it to piss the hell off of Adobe or the publishers. Then if you get in trouble, you can sue the hell out of them for false accusation.

[Kumabjorn]

I guess it would be kind of fun to start a netwide grassroots movement that creates fake e-books that contain a lot of things like: "Enjoy going through my private library, perv?"

[JWez]

A couple of quotes some of you may recognize:

"They have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing."

and the more recent

"In America, internet explore you."

It would be amusing, except both are true. One post mentions legislation. The only legislation that could or will happen is that to strengthen Adobe's hand.

[rkomar]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

My tinfold makes a very comfortable liner...

I gave a talk on cosmic rays once for a course, and as a joke, wore a tin-foil lined toque at the start. I lasted about five minutes before it felt like my brains were going to boil. That tin-foil was a great heat reflector and most uncomfortable for me. Maybe it's better if you don't use your brain while wearing it.

[Rev. Bob]

Originally Posted by rkomar

I gave a talk on cosmic rays once for a course, and as a joke, wore a tin-foil lined toque at the start. I lasted about five minutes before it felt like my brains were going to boil. That tin-foil was a great heat reflector and most uncomfortable for me. Maybe it's better if you don't use your brain while wearing it.

See, there's your mistake. The foil goes on the outside.

[taustin]

Originally Posted by Rev. Bob

See, there's your mistake. The foil goes on the outside.

I ran across an archive of a mailing list once, in which there was a nasty, nasty flame war about "shiny side in, or out."

It was a cooking mailing list, and they were talking about baked potatoes.

[MikeB1972]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

This why my e-book reader is unconnected to the Internet. Something that can't hapen, won't happen.

My tinfold makes a very comfortable liner...

Ahh, but what about the hidden internet connection they don't tell you about.

You have been lulled into a false sense of paranoia security. Time to start reading in a lead lined room.

[soulfuldog]

Originally Posted by taustin

I ran across an archive of a mailing list once, in which there was a nasty, nasty flame war about "shiny side in, or out."

It was a cooking mailing list, and they were talking about baked potatoes.

Thanks, that has just brightened up my day.

[patrik]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

I prefer my own setup.... I only have ADE installed on a virtual machine... I use it to download the DRM-infected book, remove the infection and then move it to my host... And the VM doesn't know anything about the host!

That's exactly how I do it.

For anyone who wants to play with virtual machines, Virtualbox is free and easy to use.
https://www.virtualbox.org/

[peterwardgd]

Never left ADE2 so i'm all good. Relativity.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

The problem is there is no *explicit* federal right to privacy as such in the constitution, just a series of specific protections (search and seizure, self incrimination, etc). The court has on occasion found an *implicit* right to privacy (the most prominent case started a culture war that is 40 years running with no end in sight) but it is case to case. Congress has legislated a variety of protections as have the states but again, nothing absolute.

There is no absolute right to privacy to parallel the right of free speech, which is why federal surveillance laws like the Patriot Act can exist. And that is probably why: law and order and security concerns.

Tying into this, when the court talks about the "right to privacy," it isn't really talking about eavesdropping. It's talking about the the right to make certain decisions that *relate to private aspects of your life* without government interference. The right to privacy under the US constitution generally means that you have the freedom (i.e. "a liberty interest") to make certain private, personal decisions without governmental interference. These cases are all relate to sexual privacy - right to contraception, right to abortion, right to sex with a member of the same sex.

The 4th amendment also uses a "reasonable expectation of privacy" test to help determine when a police search requires a warrant, but that establishes a rule of thumb for searches; it's not about a specifically identified right to privacy.


So with respect to the right against what we think of as privacy today, the only real protections come from federal and state statutes.

[gluejar]

I was involved in the effort to reproduce Nate's results, and I wrote the post that some have quoted here: http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/20...-on-adobe.html

Happy to answer questions.

I'd also recommend reading the comments on Matt Enis' article in Library Journal:
http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2014/...g-accusations/ in particular the comments by Galen Charlton and Jason Griffey.

Eric

[soondai]

Glad to know the program is not systematically scanning my computer

On the second link it mentions information being sent on books outside of the ADE library under certain conditions-- could you elaborate a bit on what those conditions are?

[gluejar]

Originally Posted by soondai

Glad to know the program is not systematically scanning my computer

On the second link it mentions information being sent on books outside of the ADE library under certain conditions-- could you elaborate a bit on what those conditions are?

soondai,

When ADE4 recognizes an ereader device connected to the computer, that's when it reports its ebooks.

Eric

[gluejar]

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

I guess it would be kind of fun to start a netwide grassroots movement that creates fake e-books that contain a lot of things like: "Enjoy going through my private library, perv?"

Kumabjorn,

Not original to me, but setting the title to:
Moby Dick"); DROP DATABASE;
is the appropriate thing to do.