Crowd-sourced translations? - Page 2

chaley · 10-08-2014, 05:06 AM

@Terisa de morgan & PremaEbooks: I intend to add a "Translation credits" line to the main menu where I will credit your work. Could you tell me how you would like to be credited? Any of "anonymous", your MobileRead forum name, your real name (first, last, or both), or an email address will do.

Terisa de morgan · 10-08-2014, 05:43 AM

It's ok my Mobileread forum name, if you like. And, of course, thanks

(no necessary but nice from you)

PremaEbooks · 10-08-2014, 07:57 AM

Prema Ebooks or Prema Ediciones would be nice.

Thanks!

chaley · 10-09-2014, 12:08 PM

@Terisa de morgan & PremaEbooks: you might see some phrases marked with red exclamation points. This happens when I upload changes to the phrase. Today I changed several, mostly removing spurious quote marks and spaces.

When the English text of a phrase is changed and uploaded, OneSky marks that phrase as "Updated" and shows a red exclamation mark on it. OneSky also shows a red exclamation mark at the top of the page in the filter box. You can use the filter to show only phrases that have been changed.

When looking at the translation for a phrase that has changed you will see the red exclamation near the bottom right of that section. After you edit the translation (if you need to, which you probably don't), click this exclamation and choose "Mark as correct". This will remove that phrase from the updated list.

EDIT: I have also been adding screen captures of where phrases occur. Let me know if there are some phrases that could use a screen capture and don't have one.

Terisa de morgan · 10-09-2014, 01:18 PM

Thank you, I'll check it.

PremaEbooks · 10-10-2014, 09:08 AM

Ok! Thanks!
I guess that those changes are the notifications I get in my e-mail

chaley · 10-10-2014, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PremaEbooks

I guess that those changes are the notifications I get in my e-mail

I didn't know you received notifications. What are they telling you? The ones I get say

Quote:

We are pleased to inform you that your string file strings.xml has been processed for project CalibreCompanion .

549 phrases found. All of them have been added to your project successfully. Click here to check the phrases.

Is this what you get?

They would be much more useful if they said what had changed, such as W total phrases, X new phrases, Y deleted phrases, and Z changed phrases. Someone from OneSky asked for comments about notifications. I will mention this. Do you have anything you would like OneSky to consider changing?

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2014, 01:48 PM

My notifications only say:

Quote:

New phrases have been added into the project CalibreCompanion . Click here to help translate.

It would be useful some more information. And I don't know if there's a way to download non-translated phrases, translate them offline and upload them later. It would be helpful for me.

chaley · 10-10-2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

And I don't know if there's a way to download non-translated phrases, translate them offline and upload them later. It would be helpful for me.

There might be a way to do that. I will look.

PremaEbooks · 10-10-2014, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaley

I didn't know you received notifications. What are they telling you? The ones I get say
Is this what you get?

They would be much more useful if they said what had changed, such as W total phrases, X new phrases, Y deleted phrases, and Z changed phrases. Someone from OneSky asked for comments about notifications. I will mention this. Do you have anything you would like OneSky to consider changing?

I don't remember exactly but... more or less what Terisa says

In my case, I don't need anything special... I told you about this week being very busy, but from monday on I will be active again.

I have seen that you're adding the screen shots, which might be useful in several cases but apart from that I don't have any problems trying to figure it out.

If I have any problem with any paragraph I'll let you know

PremaEbooks · 10-10-2014, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaley

There might be a way to do that. I will look.

That's why the first time I offered to do the translations I told you about the "xml" files.

Correct me if I'm wrong but all you have to do is create a new folder (for example in spanish) with "value-es" and put the string.xml in.

I'm translating all the new Onyx apps and that's what we have.

I need to be connected 24/7 so no problem for me to use OneSky, but using xml files could be usefull for those who cannot access the page anytime.

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2014, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PremaEbooks

That's why the first time I offered to do the translations I told you about the "xml" files.

Correct me if I'm wrong but all you have to do is create a new folder (for example in spanish) with "value-es" and put the string.xml in.

I'm translating all the new Onyx apps and that's what we have.

I need to be connected 24/7 so no problem for me to use OneSky, but using xml files could be usefull for those who cannot access the page anytime.

I'm not talking about the way you can do it in Android, but in OneSky, if you can download a file similar to a po file for poEdit, and upload it later, so it can be integrated into the app.

PremaEbooks · 10-10-2014, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

I'm not talking about the way you can do it in Android, but in OneSky, if you can download a file similar to a po file for poEdit, and upload it later, so it can be integrated into the app.

Of course I know there should be different options. I was just explaining why I told him about translating the xml files.
At the end they will have to create that folder for each language and put the xml file in it.

Any option is fine with me.

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2014, 05:35 PM

I think they have already created it

, as the demo version has some translations . I will check the mistakes and correct them if they are still wrong.

chaley · 10-10-2014, 05:37 PM

Of course I know about .xml files. That is what I upload to OneSky and that is what I download from them. That is how the work you have already done is already in the test version pointed at by the link in the sticky post.

Giving everyone a .xml file would be a disaster. I would need to manually merge the files, trying to work out if any phrase had changed. In effect, I would need to re-implement what OneSky (and others like it) have already done. This isn't practical.

What I am looking at is whether OneSky's upload facility supports variants in translation. By that I mean if person A uploads a file and person B uploads a file, does it tell us what the differences are? It could be that it does, but it might work only if I upload the files. Some experimentation is needed to see what actually happens.

BTW: I need to create two folders, one "values-es-rES" and one "values-es", assuming that Spain Spanish is the default Spanish. Given that today it is the *only* Spanish the answer is obvious, but what happens if someone supplies an es-US translation? Or any of the many latin american Spanish translations? In that case, choosing the default isn't quite so obvious any more.

10-08-2014, 05:06 AM	#16
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,509 Karma: 8065348 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	@Terisa de morgan & PremaEbooks: I intend to add a "Translation credits" line to the main menu where I will credit your work. Could you tell me how you would like to be credited? Any of "anonymous", your MobileRead forum name, your real name (first, last, or both), or an email address will do. Last edited by chaley; 10-08-2014 at 05:53 AM.

10-08-2014, 05:43 AM	#17
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,664 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	It's ok my Mobileread forum name, if you like. And, of course, thanks (no necessary but nice from you) Last edited by Terisa de morgan; 10-08-2014 at 09:01 AM.

10-09-2014, 12:08 PM	#19
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,509 Karma: 8065348 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	@Terisa de morgan & PremaEbooks: you might see some phrases marked with red exclamation points. This happens when I upload changes to the phrase. Today I changed several, mostly removing spurious quote marks and spaces. When the English text of a phrase is changed and uploaded, OneSky marks that phrase as "Updated" and shows a red exclamation mark on it. OneSky also shows a red exclamation mark at the top of the page in the filter box. You can use the filter to show only phrases that have been changed. When looking at the translation for a phrase that has changed you will see the red exclamation near the bottom right of that section. After you edit the translation (if you need to, which you probably don't), click this exclamation and choose "Mark as correct". This will remove that phrase from the updated list. EDIT: I have also been adding screen captures of where phrases occur. Let me know if there are some phrases that could use a screen capture and don't have one. Last edited by chaley; 10-09-2014 at 12:12 PM.

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10-08-2014, 07:57 AM	#18
PremaEbooks Zealot Posts: 104 Karma: 8504 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Spain Device: Kindle(all), Nook, Sony, Onyx Boox, iPad 2	Prema Ebooks or Prema Ediciones would be nice. Thanks!

10-09-2014, 01:18 PM	#20
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,664 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Thank you, I'll check it.

10-10-2014, 09:08 AM	#21
PremaEbooks Zealot Posts: 104 Karma: 8504 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Spain Device: Kindle(all), Nook, Sony, Onyx Boox, iPad 2	Ok! Thanks! I guess that those changes are the notifications I get in my e-mail

10-10-2014, 05:35 PM	#29
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,664 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	I think they have already created it , as the demo version has some translations . I will check the mistakes and correct them if they are still wrong.

10-10-2014, 05:37 PM	#30
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,509 Karma: 8065348 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	Of course I know about .xml files. That is what I upload to OneSky and that is what I download from them. That is how the work you have already done is already in the test version pointed at by the link in the sticky post. Giving everyone a .xml file would be a disaster. I would need to manually merge the files, trying to work out if any phrase had changed. In effect, I would need to re-implement what OneSky (and others like it) have already done. This isn't practical. What I am looking at is whether OneSky's upload facility supports variants in translation. By that I mean if person A uploads a file and person B uploads a file, does it tell us what the differences are? It could be that it does, but it might work only if I upload the files. Some experimentation is needed to see what actually happens. BTW: I need to create two folders, one "values-es-rES" and one "values-es", assuming that Spain Spanish is the default Spanish. Given that today it is the only Spanish the answer is obvious, but what happens if someone supplies an es-US translation? Or any of the many latin american Spanish translations? In that case, choosing the default isn't quite so obvious any more.