Sigil 0.8.0 Released - Page 6

kovidgoyal · 09-30-2014, 01:52 PM

@KevinH: Your rationale for making python the primary plugin language was that there exists a large body of ebook manipulation code already in python. That large body of code exists in python 2, not python 3. But anyway, I've said my piece on this subject. Choose whatever you like, time will tell whether the choice was a wise one.

As for python 2.8, I was under the impression that the SSL security backports were going to be made into 2.8, but I see that the python devs finally decided to keep it in python 2.7. So I was wrong on that. They just decided to change the meaning of patch releases to no longer mean backwards compatible releases. They are really tying themselves into knots trying to push for python 3 adoption.

DiapDealer · 09-30-2014, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Yes python 2.7 (and Python 3.4) both have great support for regular expressions and can of course do many many things that are impossible to do with regular expressions alone.

In my opinion, Matthew Barnett's regex module should replace the standard python re module. I use it wherever possible (especially when bundling/compiling a python interpreter). Full unicode case folding when coupled with Python 3.4.

Regarding python 2 vs 3: sometimes it's just nice to not have to jump through hoops (the same ones)--even when they're low to the ground. Any brand-spanking-new python-based project I was starting today from scratch would most assuredly be based on Python 3 (even though python 2 has been very good to/for me).

JSWolf · 10-02-2014, 04:07 PM

I am going to jump in here with a new bug report for Sigil. I have an eBook that uses smallcaps and the code in the XML is...

Code:

<h1 class="chapter3" id="adc"><span class="small">also by p. d. james</span></h1>

In the CSS, the code is...

Code:

span.small {
font-family: smallcaps
}

Now the code for the fonts is correct...

Code:

@font-face {
font-family: smallcaps;
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-R.ttf)
}
@font-face {
font-family: smallcaps;
font-weight: bold;
font-style: normal;
src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-B.ttf)
}

This displays correctly in ADE. But in Sigil, I get lowercase instead of smallcaps.

Sigil isn't recognizing span.small in the CSS.

KevinH · 10-02-2014, 05:18 PM

Hi,
This isn't a bug report. A real bug report provides the steps to reproduce the bug, and a testcase. Since any type of css inconsistency can cause css to be ignored, this could simply be a problem someplace else in your css that ADE ignores. Also problems with included fonts can do the same thing. css can change the font but not the characters, and you have all lowercase chars. So what does smallcap do with lowercase characters in that font. I am not sure.

So just like your bug reports in Kindleunpack, I'll need a real testcase that exhibits the problem to rule out all of the other possible causes, otherwise I am just guessing.

KevinH

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I am going to jump in here with a new bug report for Sigil. I have an eBook that uses smallcaps and the code in the XML is...

Code:

<h1 class="chapter3" id="adc"><span class="small">also by p. d. james</span></h1>

In the CSS, the code is...

Code:

span.small {
font-family: smallcaps
}

Now the code for the fonts is correct...

Code:

@font-face {
font-family: smallcaps;
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-R.ttf)
}
@font-face {
font-family: smallcaps;
font-weight: bold;
font-style: normal;
src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-B.ttf)
}

This displays correctly in ADE. But in Sigil, I get lowercase instead of smallcaps.

Sigil isn't recognizing span.small in the CSS.

JSWolf · 10-02-2014, 06:17 PM

I've PMed the problematical ePub so you can have a look and see what's what.

Doitsu · 10-02-2014, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

In the CSS, the code is...

Code:

span.small {
font-family: smallcaps

AFAIK, small caps need to be defined as font-variant:

Code:

span.small { font-variant: small-caps; }

With this code Sigil will display small caps, if the font supports it.

BTW, older Sigil versions occasionally had problems with some embedded fonts, but Sigil 0.8.0 (or more precisely Qt 5.3.1) no longer exhibits this behavior.

JSWolf · 10-02-2014, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

AFAIK, small caps need to be defined as font-variant:

Code:

span.small { font-variant: small-caps; }

With this code Sigil will display small caps, if the font supports it.

BTW, older Sigil versions occasionally had problems with some embedded fonts, but Sigil 0.8.0 (or more precisely Qt 5.3.1) no longer exhibits this behavior.

The smallcaps is not a font-variant. It's an embedded font. It's the only way for ADE to display proper small caps. The font is not being displayed.

JSWolf · 10-02-2014, 07:13 PM

Added to the bug report...

I just found something else odd. If I edit the CSS in any way (doesn't have to be the class that specifies the font), and then view the XML in Book View, the font displays.

DiapDealer · 10-02-2014, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I just found something else odd. If I edit the CSS in any way (doesn't have to be the class that specifies the font), and then view the XML in Book View, the font displays.

I have run into times when Book View doesn't seem to want to get in sync with the current CSS/HTML changes. Most often though (for me), it has to do with properly linked images not rendering (missing image icon). Occasionally, it seems that nothing short of a restart of Sigil will get everything in sync for me. It's not anything new to 0.8.0 (at least for me anyway).

mrmikel · 10-02-2014, 08:22 PM

As I recall, I have only seen this a few times. It is worse the more that you do, like changing all the images one by one.

KevinH · 10-02-2014, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I've PMed the problematical ePub so you can have a look and see what's what.

I see nothing in my PM? Are you sure you pm'd "KevinH"?

JSWolf · 10-02-2014, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

I see nothing in my PM? Are you sure you pm'd "KevinH"?

I am positive. I just double checked. Anyway, I sent a new PM.

Arios · 10-03-2014, 06:12 PM

May be a little off topic, but...

There is a very good review of Sigil here (http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-460816.shtml), and it's well deserved. Even the "bad" is not so bad!

Congratulations to user_none and KevinH,

Cheers!

PS I don't work for them

blackest · 10-03-2014, 07:27 PM

Hi is there any debugging that can be turned on for Sigil i'm finding problems with 3 men in a boat on linux mint with the unofficial deb package switching between code view and book view i'm getting a segmentation fault. It could be low ram related.

one thing which would be helpful would be an option to fix the book view window size. I find with some images that you get a title rest of the page blank then the image and then the text. It is a pain having to load a version into my sony ereader to find i've oversized the images (again) .

The sony is a bit of a pain at times as it seems not to recognise some styling butting text up against images. i guess other readers have their own quirks too.

JSWolf · 10-03-2014, 08:06 PM

There is a very well formatted ePub version (with images) of Three Men in a Boat that you can download for free (right here at MobileRead) and not actually have to do any editing to.

10-02-2014, 04:07 PM	#78
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,792 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I am going to jump in here with a new bug report for Sigil. I have an eBook that uses smallcaps and the code in the XML is... Code: <h1 class="chapter3" id="adc"><span class="small">also by p. d. james</span></h1> In the CSS, the code is... Code: span.small { font-family: smallcaps } Now the code for the fonts is correct... Code: @font-face { font-family: smallcaps; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-R.ttf) } @font-face { font-family: smallcaps; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; src: url(../Fonts/CharisSILSmCp-B.ttf) } This displays correctly in ADE. But in Sigil, I get lowercase instead of smallcaps. Sigil isn't recognizing span.small in the CSS.

10-02-2014, 07:13 PM	#83
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,792 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Re: Bug report Added to the bug report... I just found something else odd. If I edit the CSS in any way (doesn't have to be the class that specifies the font), and then view the XML in Book View, the font displays.

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09-30-2014, 01:52 PM	#76
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,373 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@KevinH: Your rationale for making python the primary plugin language was that there exists a large body of ebook manipulation code already in python. That large body of code exists in python 2, not python 3. But anyway, I've said my piece on this subject. Choose whatever you like, time will tell whether the choice was a wise one. As for python 2.8, I was under the impression that the SSL security backports were going to be made into 2.8, but I see that the python devs finally decided to keep it in python 2.7. So I was wrong on that. They just decided to change the meaning of patch releases to no longer mean backwards compatible releases. They are really tying themselves into knots trying to push for python 3 adoption.

10-02-2014, 06:17 PM	#80
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,792 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've PMed the problematical ePub so you can have a look and see what's what.

10-02-2014, 08:22 PM	#85
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	As I recall, I have only seen this a few times. It is worse the more that you do, like changing all the images one by one.

10-03-2014, 06:12 PM	#88
Arios A curiosus lector! Posts: 463 Karma: 2015140 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch	May be a little off topic, but... There is a very good review of Sigil here (http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-460816.shtml), and it's well deserved. Even the "bad" is not so bad! Congratulations to user_none and KevinH, Cheers! PS I don't work for them

10-03-2014, 07:27 PM	#89
blackest Connoisseur Posts: 67 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: sony prs 2	Hi is there any debugging that can be turned on for Sigil i'm finding problems with 3 men in a boat on linux mint with the unofficial deb package switching between code view and book view i'm getting a segmentation fault. It could be low ram related. one thing which would be helpful would be an option to fix the book view window size. I find with some images that you get a title rest of the page blank then the image and then the text. It is a pain having to load a version into my sony ereader to find i've oversized the images (again) . The sony is a bit of a pain at times as it seems not to recognise some styling butting text up against images. i guess other readers have their own quirks too.

10-03-2014, 08:06 PM	#90
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,792 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	There is a very well formatted ePub version (with images) of Three Men in a Boat that you can download for free (right here at MobileRead) and not actually have to do any editing to.