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I prefer the eReader drm to the mobi drm. I don't want Apple authorizing or deauthorizing my 'devices' for me. I think eReader will still survive as an app because it is tied to the Fictionwise site, so they could say it is just like Facebook for iPhone or Google for iPhone. I already have Fictionwise content, and would want to kep being able to read it.
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Flumbo,
If they did it that way, they might be successful, though frankly they would need to make it easy for people to import their current books into their iBooks library ![]() -- Bill |
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I've had zero issues with getting all but drm-ed LRF and drm-ed epub onto the iPhone.
For content from fictionwise/ereader, just buy in the ereader format; they sync down to the iTouch/iPhone rather quickly. If you have just about any non-DRMed format, you can open it on your computer using Stanza, open up stanza on the iPhone, and the computer version of stanza should be listed in the shared books section of the iPhone stanza. Transferring takes about 10-30 secs. Easy peasy. If you have DRM-ed mobipocked, you just need to go though an additional step of removing the DRM; once you do that, it loads up in stanza just fine. |
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Just a minor nitpick, but isn't defeating copy protection, even if you have no intention of distributing the work to others a crime in the United States?
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Of course there are many more that aren't available at either store like recent Larry Niven, Vernor Vinge or Robert Charles Wilson. I'm sure it goes both ways, but my luck finding what I want to buy lately has been poor. |
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The practical answer is who would know and who would care if you format shift for personal use. |
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Okay, so...let's make this a specific hypothetical, and one that will sidestep the rights question:
Suppose I download my own novel, From a Changeling Star, from Fictionwise. It's listed as having Read-Aloud disabled for all formats except .LIT. But suppose I chose another format like Mobipocket or eReader and I wanted to enable those to be read aloud. How would I do that? (Remember, I'm the copyright holder.) I actually have no experience whatever with read-aloud software, so I don't even know if those particular formats are compatible even without the DRM. |
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I think the whole DRM argument is silly. If I wanted to let my mother read my copy of any book in paper, I could do this in five minutes and it wouldn't be illegal at all. Or she could go get it from the library for free. Anyone who wants free books just for the sake of having free books has plenty of legal ways they can get them.
My sister has in the past given me access to her Fictionwise account. About 95% of it didn't interest me because she's a little more into the smut than I am ![]() ![]() |
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Essentially, fair use, and if I understand it correctly, authorial ownership has nothing to do with it. Essentially, you have to have explicit permission of the owner of the DRM to break it (otherwise CS students in cryptography classes everywhere would be going to jail). I know all of this is silly. Personally, I understand why some form of DRM might be necessary, but for the most part, the current legal structure is draconian, and really serves no purpose. Real pirates (i.e. those who copy intellectual properly without permission and distribute it widely) are never stopped by DRM. That being said, I would prefer stay safe and avoid what I consider to be draconian DRM'd books. Non-DRM and and non-centrally served DRM (like eReader) are the only books I am planning on buying. -- Bill |
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Because legally, you made a full copy of a work that you were not given permission to make a copy of by the author of said work. It would legally be the same as if you just made photo-copies of your sister's books for yourself (but much easier of course). Generally, I think the courts have found such copies to stretch beyond the bounds of fair use for private indivduals (I think it is sometimes ok for teachers....). -- Bill |
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So far as I can tell, the only "major" Reader with a built-in read aloud option is MS Reader. There are also accessibility tools that can read off the screen, but the problem for DRMed reader software is that 3rd party text to speech starts with text and if the speech app can get the text so can a DRM cracking program. So none of the reader apps "cooperate" with text to speech programs. I have never seen text to speech enabled on a DRM ebook (it would only be effective for LIT anyway, since the others don't have text to speech). This means that the following current, November 2006, exception from the prohibition against circumvention of access-control technology in the DMCA (see Wikipedia) probably applies to all ebooks, and they can all be format shifted for personal use by anyone in the US: Quote:
Note that writing DRM cracking programs and helping others get them working is still illegal, even when using such programs is legal. |
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How do I know if my Mobipocket book is DRM? Its a .prc file. I thought I could use Bookshelf to read mobipocket books?
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Can anyone answer my question? Also is there a reader that I can use to read my purchased ebook from mobipocket? Its a .prc file
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