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pdurrant · 09-25-2014, 04:50 PM

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The Cybernetic Brains by Raymond F. Jones.

Outdated, simplistic, pessimistic, overtly political dystopian utopia. It describes a slightly flawed utopia, but insists it's a dystopia. The unambiguous problem this world faces could, given the events in the story, be easily solved, but isn't.

I could have done without this one.

Next up: Fool's Errand by Robin Hobb. The first in the Tawny Man trilogy, which follows her Farseer trilogy. I'm enjoying this one.

ATDrake · 09-25-2014, 08:56 PM

So, in between attending to other things (thanks, B&N, for removing the easy website download button for everyone's books, and for making your un-updated software also fail bafflingly on at least two versions of Mac OS X

), finished another batch of Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot novels.

Best of the lot was Murder on the Orient Express. This was very carefully laid out, explored Poirot's methodology well, and after carefully baffling you as to whocouldhavedunnit in what amounts to a locked room had a rather ingenious solution which made total sense and reminds me of my favourite out of the proposed explanations to one of my favourite and highly recommended murder mystery comedy films, which I'll spoiler tag in case you've seen it and haven't read MOTOE:

Spoiler:

I have the GN adaptation of this by François Rivière with art by Solidor, and while at first the style of the art seemed rather ordinary undistinguished ligne claire, like the MOTOE novel it turned out to be deeper than it looked, with some very nifty panel layouts from which you could envision a film based upon it, and with deft pacing and dropping of the essential clues and explanation, allowing for the 48-page album limit. And it's got a cute cartoony portrait of Christie in the back as well.

Very highly recommended. This is one of her best (and also one of Christie's top 10 personal favourites, according to the "Clues to Christie" freebie).

Murder in Mesopotamia, which I just finished today, contains the case alluded to from which Poirot was traveling away in MOTOE (and like MOTOE, exists in a GN adaptation which I don't own and the library was out of).

This was interesting for some of the archaeology bits and the POV of someone observing Poirot's methods who isn't nearly as impressed with him as Hastings is.

Once again, the solution is clever and makes sense, but the entire thing struck me as rather baroque in design and execution, even if I did manage to guess whodunnit (after all the other likely suspects seemed to have been eliminated), even if not why that particular person would have bothered given the information we thought we'd had about them at the time, as well as one of the hidden identity tricks that Christie seems to love.

Medium-mild recommend for series followers. This seemed interestingly different in tone and setting from the usual Poirots, and the case is pretty clever. But there's something just slightly off about it which keeps it from being one of the top-tier Christies, and not to mention it is rather filled with annoying old-timey stereotypes about foreigners and women, freely expressed in that annoying old-timey way.

Three-Act Tragedy is another one of the clever baroque ones which makes total sense where I guessed whodunnit, and even part of their reasoning for why, but missed out exactly the degree of enormity of the motivation and execution of the crime, which as a result of that, had a pretty complicated setup and a certain amount of contrivance which was kind of explained in story as the dastardly plot required a certain amount of contrivance.

This is also another one where Poirot kind of drifts in and out mid-case, as the principals only really call him in once it becomes obvious that murder is being committed (after having joked that having an investigator around at the first party would probably end up with giving him something to investigate, you should know better than to tempt fate like that; but then, even when Poirot quietly retires to the countryside to garden, people start killing his neighbours, so c'est la vie).

Thus, it's rather interesting to see the lead "guest" characters try and take over the amateur sleuth roles for themselves, with varying degrees of success.

Medium recommend if you're following the series. This does have a rather clever case and some interesting points, but again falls short of being one of her top-tier works and isn't quite worthy of a standalone commendation.

The ABC Murders is another Hastings novel, and we finally do get a mention of his previously-apparently-forgotten formerly-beloved wife, who's briefly noted as taking care of the South American ranch while Hastings again spends several months gallivanting around solving crimes with Poirot (well, ostensibly he's seeing to some investments in England which require the personal touch; just like murder does).

But the weird thing is that Hastings never seems to think of her, speak of her, or even write to her/receive letters/telegrams/phone calls from her after that one brief line, not even when you'd think that "Cinderella" would naturally come up in conversation when Poirot teases Hastings about having a thing for pretty young auburn-haired girls or how devoted lovebirds meet during his crime cases, which I thought would be the point where either one of them would reminisce that that was indeed the case for the Hastingses.

Since they apparently seem to still be married and Wikipedia says that Hastings only shows up in another two or so novels from this point forth, I think I'm now going to pretend that they have this amicable separation in what amounts effectively to an open marriage, where "Cinderella" is able to take advantage of the more socially respectable status of an officially married woman with a retired officer husband to live her own life far from the class constraints of the British Isles, while setting Hastings free to discreetly admire bright young things while obtaining the adrenaline rush and feeling of useful life accomplishment by solving crime with his bestest buddy. For the next two or so novels he appears in, at least.

Anyway, this seems to be a more experimental novel on Christie's part, combining Hastings' narration with a dramatized re-enactment of the murders from one of the suspects' POV, which it turns out there's A Reason® for, and not the one you'd think from having jadedly read a lot of modern authors' gloaty-sounding serial killer internal monologues inserted into the otherwise sleuth-POV text (Y HELO THAR, Jo Nesbø!).

I rather liked the formation of the Legion of Super-Sleuths from the friends and family of the victims in this, which led to what amounted to a quickie class in how-to do the "order and the method", as well as "the psychology" of the criminal mind.

At first this seemed to be one of those somewhat draggy cases like Lord Edgware Dies where everything is so obvious you can't help but wonder why it's being laid out like this and you think it must be obviously wrong and it seems tedious to go over the wrongness with such exactitude. And like LED, it does turn out to be wrong, but for a rather un-obvious reason which is rather clever (but again on the baroque side, as these things tend to be when the setup and execution are this complicated).

Medium-high recommend for Poirot readers. This is one of the best of the Hastings novels, IMHO, and the actual case is pretty clever and unexpected and makes total sense in the end, and the writing depicting the personality mix of whatever the Poirotian equivalent of the Baker Street Irregulars should be called is enjoyable.

Now currently on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Valley of Fear, which it took me a while to dig up my old freebie B&N Classics Edition of, since some things about Christie's The Big Four struck me as being probably callbacks/take thats to a few things that showed up in particular Sherlock Holmes stories, and I wanted to see if that was indeed the case before I finally commented on it.

Yapyap · 09-26-2014, 02:13 AM

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I started Lockwood & Co: The Whispering Skull by Jonathan Stroud last night. Didn't get very far yet. After loving Stroud's Bartimaeus series to bits, I really had high hopes for Lockwood & Co. but the first book, while being okay enough, didn't really grab me (not in a "wow" way in any case) last year and this one seems to be much the same way, although there are now hints at some deeper plot that may, if I'm lucky, turn out to be what I need... Still, I don't think this series will make it to my top ten unless something really remarkable happens either in this book or the next.

And finished that the other day. Yeah.

I'm not sure where I stand with this series - it's very well written, it has all the requisite plot elements, the characters, especially the narrator, are likeable enough - but that undefinable something is just missing.

I'll certainly continue reading the series, as that "something" is there in very few books/series - it missing just hits you a bit harder and makes the disappointment that little bit stronger if you've loved the author's previous work - and the first two books have been enjoyable enough in their own way.

Now I'm reading Broken Homes by Ben Aaronovitch, the fourth in his Peter Grant / Rivers of London series. I'm still enjoying Peter's "voice" very much and the setting and the mixture of police procedural with magic is fabulously detailed and comes off surprisingly realistic, but I'm not really as into it as I was with the first and third books in the series. Hmph. Maybe the break in my reading them was too long between the third and this one...

Geralt · 09-26-2014, 03:36 AM

Do you read a lot of middle grade and children's fantasy Yapyap? I also like those kinds of books even though I'm 30 yo lol

I don't care much for YA fantasy though. A lot of those are bad paranormal romances wrapped up in fantasy cloak.

Yapyap · 09-26-2014, 05:26 AM

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Do you read a lot of middle grade and children's fantasy Yapyap? I also like those kinds of books even though I'm 30 yo lol

I don't care much for YA fantasy though. A lot of those are bad paranormal romances wrapped up in fantasy cloak.

I do read plenty of that, and I'm older than you.

I stay away from those where the description already makes it clear it's all about the girl with some mystic ability or another destined to <insert whatever> but then she meets mysterious, beautiful boy, and ... yeah, those aren't quite my kind of book.

It's not all that, but MG fantasy (or that crossover area between MG and YA - the one inhabited by Jonathan Stroud, Rick Riordan, Derek Landy; I'd put Harry Potter in this category as well) seems to offer more options for plot and character focused adventures that don't necessarily completely eschew some romantic developments but don't focus on them to the extent of the rest of the plot becoming irrelevant.

Geralt · 09-26-2014, 07:54 AM

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I do read plenty of that, and I'm older than you.

I stay away from those where the description already makes it clear it's all about the girl with some mystic ability or another destined to <insert whatever> but then she meets mysterious, beautiful boy, and ... yeah, those aren't quite my kind of book.

It's not all that, but MG fantasy (or that crossover area between MG and YA - the one inhabited by Jonathan Stroud, Rick Riordan, Derek Landy; I'd put Harry Potter in this category as well) seems to offer more options for plot and character focused adventures that don't necessarily completely eschew some romantic developments but don't focus on them to the extent of the rest of the plot becoming irrelevant.

Lol, but hey you know.....who cares

Yeah, I avoid those too. Too much drama over relationships is boring for me to read.

I absolutely loved Bartimaeus books, due to genius character of the same name

Haven't read the other two, but based on your ravings here (take that in a positive manner please

) I added Scepter of the Ancients (Skulduggery Pleasant #1) to my purchases and I will read it soon

Rev. Bob · 09-26-2014, 09:34 AM

Finished Limbus, Inc. last night, right before starting my sleep study. It's a neat shared-world anthology, five novellas wrapped together with a four-part framing sequence.

The idea is that Limbus is a company that shows up to recruit just the right person for just the right job - but the fine print's a doozy. I liked it enough that I'm looking forward to Volume 2, which is due out next month - even though two of the five stories used the same major plot device (Find The Missing Girl), they were very different in execution; it didn't feel like a rehash at all. If you like Twilight Zone-style horror, it's well worth a shot.

I'm now starting Chicks in Capes, an illustrated anthology (not graphic novel) about female superheroes. The first story struck me as rather mediocre, but I'm hoping the rest are better. I picked this one up after meeting one of the authors in May, so I collected her e-autograph on my iPad and spliced it in next to her story. Always a neat trick...

Dazrin · 09-26-2014, 11:18 AM

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I really enjoyed that. Interesting twist at the end. Now for the next one, The Black Ice also from my library and available without a waiting list.

Another good read. Not sure why I never tried the Harry Bosch series before but I am really enjoying it.

My two holds at the library aren't available yet (1st and 3rd on the lists) and The Concrete Blonde (Harry Bosch 3) isn't available either, so I need to find something else until they are ready. I am thinking that some Tom Swift would be a good quick distraction, starting with Tom Swift and His Motor-Cycle; I will be using HarryT's omnibus volume 1 out of the MR Library.

CRussel · 09-26-2014, 02:07 PM

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Finished Conflict of Honors

by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller. And finished Agent of Change. On to Carpe Diem. That should get knocked off late today or tomorrow, followed by Plan B. And I'm going to have to circle back around and pick up a couple of the short stories. I seem to be missing things that happen "off screen".

CharredScribe · 09-26-2014, 04:23 PM

I'm reading Firestarter by Stephen King. I have read it before, maybe 15 years ago? I am really enjoying it so far, and I'm a third of the way in.

tilia · 09-26-2014, 04:35 PM

I finished Murder on the Ballarat Train, and it's my least favourite in the series so far. A bit melodramatic, but I like that Greenwoood don't shy away from the dirtier side of life. The circle of people surrounding Phryne is getting bigger by every book and I think I'm going to enjoy reading about them in the future.

I'm not sure what to read next. I'd like some science fiction, so maybe Abaddon's Gate by James S.A. Corey.

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All three of these are amongst my favourite series. Best part is, you've still got lots left to read just in those series! Sadly, they're all ones that I've already read everything in the series and I'm waiting impatiently for the next.

It's always great to be at the start of a new favourite series. I only have 7 books left of Kate Shugak, and it's not nearly enough! I did get Fire and Ice, the first book in Stabenow's Liam Campbell series in audio when it was on sale recently, and I'll probably listen to that soon.

I think your reread have inspired me to go back to Liaden actually. It's about time.

covingtoncat73 · 09-26-2014, 04:36 PM

I'm reading The Ouroboros Cycle, Book Two: A Cautionary Tale for Young Vampires by G.D. Falksen. I had just read the fist book in the series and liked it enough to start on the second. They are rather Steampunk meets Anne Rice meets Perils of Pauline and very entertaining.

alansplace · 09-26-2014, 08:33 PM

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Holy Moly! I thought that Jim Butcher has treated Harry Dresden, as a matter of course, quite brutally, but Seanan McGuire treats her protagonist, Toby Daye twice as badly as Butcher does. She does this while telling a tale (a mystery) that tightly holds my interest while entertaining and enchanting me. I'll for sure be reading more of these urban fantasy tales. Yessir...ready to start reading A Local Habitation (October Daye #2) by Seanan McGuire!!

I finished reading the 2nd book in the October Daye series, A Local Habitation. It's a supernatural mystery tale that held my interest throughout. Two in a row was enough exposure to that world for now and I'm taking a break from urban fantasy and giving Jane Austen another whirl (I recently read my first Jane Austen novel, Pride and Prejudice) and am 5 chapters into Emma.

bfisher · 09-27-2014, 07:22 PM

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Lol, but hey you know.....who cares

based on your ravings here (take that in a positive manner please

) I added Scepter of the Ancients (Skulduggery Pleasant #1) to my purchases and I will read it soon

I was intrigued enough by the above to start reading Scepter of the Ancients (Skulduggery Pleasant #1). 35% in and enjoying it immensely.

Hampshire Nanny · 09-27-2014, 08:26 PM

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After finishing the 13th Kate Shugak book, A Grave Denied, I'm now reading Murder on the Ballarat Train by Kerry Greenwood. I started the Phryne Fisher series this summer, and so far they have been entertaining.

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I finished Murder on the Ballarat Train, and it's my least favourite in the series so far. A bit melodramatic, but I like that Greenwoood don't shy away from the dirtier side of life. The circle of people surrounding Phryne is getting bigger by every book and I think I'm going to enjoy reading about them in the future.

It's always great to be at the start of a new favourite series. I only have 7 books left of Kate Shugak, and it's not nearly enough! I did get Fire and Ice, the first book in Stabenow's Liam Campbell series in audio when it was on sale recently, and I'll probably listen to that soon.

This year I went on a Phryne Fisher binge and read all the books almost straight through. I also set myself the task of finishing off as many already-started series as possible. Stabenow's Kate Shugak books were on the list. I am now "caught up" with these series and waiting for the author to publish more.

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I read them when they were initially published. Really glad to see them available in ebook. I'm planning a Cadfael binge over Christmas.

I'm currently reading Monk's Hood, the 3rd book. I plan to race through these as quickly as I can get them from the library's Freading eBook service.

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I finished The Undead Pool by Kim Harrison. I thought it was excellent! I will get to The Witch With No Name at some point to finish the series.

I'm on the waiting list at my library for The Undead Pool. I would like to read it and The Witch With No Name by the end of the year.

09-25-2014, 08:56 PM	#20852
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	So, in between attending to other things (thanks, B&N, for removing the easy website download button for everyone's books, and for making your un-updated software also fail bafflingly on at least two versions of Mac OS X ), finished another batch of Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot novels. Best of the lot was Murder on the Orient Express. This was very carefully laid out, explored Poirot's methodology well, and after carefully baffling you as to whocouldhavedunnit in what amounts to a locked room had a rather ingenious solution which made total sense and reminds me of my favourite out of the proposed explanations to one of my favourite and highly recommended murder mystery comedy films, which I'll spoiler tag in case you've seen it and haven't read MOTOE: Spoiler: Clue: The Movie, which is surprisingly brilliant and hilarious for something apparently last-minute cobbled-together in order to make use of board game film adaptation rights. It's also got wonderful performances by Tim Curry, Madeline Kahn, Martin Mull, Lesley Ann Warren, Christopher Lloyd, and Martin McKean. I have the GN adaptation of this by François Rivière with art by Solidor, and while at first the style of the art seemed rather ordinary undistinguished ligne claire, like the MOTOE novel it turned out to be deeper than it looked, with some very nifty panel layouts from which you could envision a film based upon it, and with deft pacing and dropping of the essential clues and explanation, allowing for the 48-page album limit. And it's got a cute cartoony portrait of Christie in the back as well. Very highly recommended. This is one of her best (and also one of Christie's top 10 personal favourites, according to the "Clues to Christie" freebie). Murder in Mesopotamia, which I just finished today, contains the case alluded to from which Poirot was traveling away in MOTOE (and like MOTOE, exists in a GN adaptation which I don't own and the library was out of). This was interesting for some of the archaeology bits and the POV of someone observing Poirot's methods who isn't nearly as impressed with him as Hastings is. Once again, the solution is clever and makes sense, but the entire thing struck me as rather baroque in design and execution, even if I did manage to guess whodunnit (after all the other likely suspects seemed to have been eliminated), even if not why that particular person would have bothered given the information we thought we'd had about them at the time, as well as one of the hidden identity tricks that Christie seems to love. Medium-mild recommend for series followers. This seemed interestingly different in tone and setting from the usual Poirots, and the case is pretty clever. But there's something just slightly off about it which keeps it from being one of the top-tier Christies, and not to mention it is rather filled with annoying old-timey stereotypes about foreigners and women, freely expressed in that annoying old-timey way. Three-Act Tragedy is another one of the clever baroque ones which makes total sense where I guessed whodunnit, and even part of their reasoning for why, but missed out exactly the degree of enormity of the motivation and execution of the crime, which as a result of that, had a pretty complicated setup and a certain amount of contrivance which was kind of explained in story as the dastardly plot required a certain amount of contrivance. This is also another one where Poirot kind of drifts in and out mid-case, as the principals only really call him in once it becomes obvious that murder is being committed (after having joked that having an investigator around at the first party would probably end up with giving him something to investigate, you should know better than to tempt fate like that; but then, even when Poirot quietly retires to the countryside to garden, people start killing his neighbours, so c'est la vie). Thus, it's rather interesting to see the lead "guest" characters try and take over the amateur sleuth roles for themselves, with varying degrees of success. Medium recommend if you're following the series. This does have a rather clever case and some interesting points, but again falls short of being one of her top-tier works and isn't quite worthy of a standalone commendation. The ABC Murders is another Hastings novel, and we finally do get a mention of his previously-apparently-forgotten formerly-beloved wife, who's briefly noted as taking care of the South American ranch while Hastings again spends several months gallivanting around solving crimes with Poirot (well, ostensibly he's seeing to some investments in England which require the personal touch; just like murder does). But the weird thing is that Hastings never seems to think of her, speak of her, or even write to her/receive letters/telegrams/phone calls from her after that one brief line, not even when you'd think that "Cinderella" would naturally come up in conversation when Poirot teases Hastings about having a thing for pretty young auburn-haired girls or how devoted lovebirds meet during his crime cases, which I thought would be the point where either one of them would reminisce that that was indeed the case for the Hastingses. Since they apparently seem to still be married and Wikipedia says that Hastings only shows up in another two or so novels from this point forth, I think I'm now going to pretend that they have this amicable separation in what amounts effectively to an open marriage, where "Cinderella" is able to take advantage of the more socially respectable status of an officially married woman with a retired officer husband to live her own life far from the class constraints of the British Isles, while setting Hastings free to discreetly admire bright young things while obtaining the adrenaline rush and feeling of useful life accomplishment by solving crime with his bestest buddy. For the next two or so novels he appears in, at least. Anyway, this seems to be a more experimental novel on Christie's part, combining Hastings' narration with a dramatized re-enactment of the murders from one of the suspects' POV, which it turns out there's A Reason® for, and not the one you'd think from having jadedly read a lot of modern authors' gloaty-sounding serial killer internal monologues inserted into the otherwise sleuth-POV text (Y HELO THAR, Jo Nesbø!). I rather liked the formation of the Legion of Super-Sleuths from the friends and family of the victims in this, which led to what amounted to a quickie class in how-to do the "order and the method", as well as "the psychology" of the criminal mind. At first this seemed to be one of those somewhat draggy cases like Lord Edgware Dies where everything is so obvious you can't help but wonder why it's being laid out like this and you think it must be obviously wrong and it seems tedious to go over the wrongness with such exactitude. And like LED, it does turn out to be wrong, but for a rather un-obvious reason which is rather clever (but again on the baroque side, as these things tend to be when the setup and execution are this complicated). Medium-high recommend for Poirot readers. This is one of the best of the Hastings novels, IMHO, and the actual case is pretty clever and unexpected and makes total sense in the end, and the writing depicting the personality mix of whatever the Poirotian equivalent of the Baker Street Irregulars should be called is enjoyable. Now currently on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Valley of Fear, which it took me a while to dig up my old freebie B&N Classics Edition of, since some things about Christie's The Big Four struck me as being probably callbacks/take thats to a few things that showed up in particular Sherlock Holmes stories, and I wanted to see if that was indeed the case before I finally commented on it. Last edited by ATDrake; 09-25-2014 at 09:30 PM. Reason: Misspelt a name. And further vague-ify potential maybe-spoilery allusion.

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09-26-2014, 03:36 AM	#20854
Geralt Witcher Posts: 933 Karma: 7321117 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Swamp. Slaying Drowners. Device: Kindle PW2	Do you read a lot of middle grade and children's fantasy Yapyap? I also like those kinds of books even though I'm 30 yo lol I don't care much for YA fantasy though. A lot of those are bad paranormal romances wrapped up in fantasy cloak.

09-26-2014, 09:34 AM	#20857
Rev. Bob Wizard Posts: 1,760 Karma: 9918418 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Here on the perimeter, there are no stars Device: Kobo H2O, iPad mini 3, Kindle Touch	Finished Limbus, Inc. last night, right before starting my sleep study. It's a neat shared-world anthology, five novellas wrapped together with a four-part framing sequence. The idea is that Limbus is a company that shows up to recruit just the right person for just the right job - but the fine print's a doozy. I liked it enough that I'm looking forward to Volume 2, which is due out next month - even though two of the five stories used the same major plot device (Find The Missing Girl), they were very different in execution; it didn't feel like a rehash at all. If you like Twilight Zone-style horror, it's well worth a shot. I'm now starting Chicks in Capes, an illustrated anthology (not graphic novel) about female superheroes. The first story struck me as rather mediocre, but I'm hoping the rest are better. I picked this one up after meeting one of the authors in May, so I collected her e-autograph on my iPad and spliced it in next to her story. Always a neat trick...

09-26-2014, 04:23 PM	#20860
CharredScribe Addict Posts: 266 Karma: 959704 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: South Africa Device: Kobo Aura HD, Aura ONE	I'm reading Firestarter by Stephen King. I have read it before, maybe 15 years ago? I am really enjoying it so far, and I'm a third of the way in.

09-26-2014, 04:36 PM	#20862
covingtoncat73 Wizard Posts: 2,745 Karma: 83407757 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Lenovo Duet Chromebook, Moto e	I'm reading The Ouroboros Cycle, Book Two: A Cautionary Tale for Young Vampires by G.D. Falksen. I had just read the fist book in the series and liked it enough to start on the second. They are rather Steampunk meets Anne Rice meets Perils of Pauline and very entertaining.

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