New Kindle Voyage

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

The Voyage appears to be a hit - the lenght of this thread clearly shows that. If Amazon can deliver on the experience reading on it, then I don't even think the price is too high for what is offered. All this complaining about price here only makes it clear (to me at least) that the Voyage is desirable if only it was cheaper. Sure everything would be easier on my and your wallet if it was cheaper.

Well...

I've said that I don't care for software updates such as Word Wise, and that's true. I've also said that I don't "need" the touch pager buttons or the 300 DPI screen, or a (better) front-light than the one on my KPW1.

However, if this Kindle would have cost €129, I would have probably bought it for the better screen and to see if the pager buttons would add anything useful for me, after all. Maybe I still will, but at €189, the Kobo H2O is a very serious competitor to take a look at.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

So in short you would have wanted the buttons. Somebody else may have wanted the higher resolution. Putting everything into a new Paperwhite and still expect the same price won't happen.

Have I said anywhere that I expected the same price? I just said that the price is out of my range. No need to add words to what I write. I also think that, now that two of Amazon's main competitors are either gone (Sony) or moribund (B&N), that Kindle prices will no longer be going down at introduction. Though I do expect the normal ("it's been out for a while") drop in the Voyage's price at some point.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

I'd still say it is complaining - since now you have to buy all those extra features of the highest price Kindle just to get the buttons. And it pushes you over your limit. Not everybody will be happy: it is either too much raising the price or not enough.

You can say what you want -- doesn't make you right. There are a lot of desirable products "out of my price range." Acknowledging that simple fact is not "complaining." Actually, the Kindle I use the most, the Kindle Basic (2012), was the cheapest Kindle ever. So, no, I don't have to buy all those extra features at the highest price to get my buttons.

And BTW, I don't think anyone would ever complain that the "price is not enough." Would you?

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by Crowl

I'm thinking more in terms of just how much I use my Kindle do even if I only had this new one a year, it still only works out at a few quid a week which is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah, but what you're failing to factor in (if you're a typical Kindle user) is how much profit your heavy usage generates for Amazon in book sales. So, for heavy users who buy mostly from the Kindle store, Amazon could actually give the Voyage away and still make money. That's why Kindle prices dropped so much from the original model prices -- that and the technology became much cheaper over the years.

[badgoodDeb]

My current problem is that I *did* go ahead and order the Voyage. My basic K4 has been hanging lately, and I like the buttons on that model.

The problem is that I'm accustomed to only waiting 2 days for whichever Cool Toy I have ordered. My Cool Toy fix that I'm salivating for is so far delayed that I'm browsing for something ELSE to buy just so that something Cool will arrive in 2 days. I think I'm addicted to shopping.....

[DaveCanRead]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

My current problem is that I *did* go ahead and order the Voyage. My basic K4 has been hanging lately, and I like the buttons on that model.

The problem is that I'm accustomed to only waiting 2 days for whichever Cool Toy I have ordered. My Cool Toy fix that I'm salivating for is so far delayed that I'm browsing for something ELSE to buy just so that something Cool will arrive in 2 days. I think I'm addicted to shopping.....

Buy some books exclusively for the Voyage. Be selective and take your time choosing which books to enjoy on your new kindle.
Not sure how long this will last… but it's something.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by rcentros

And BTW, I don't think anyone would ever complain that the "price is not enough." Would you?

I believe that is exactly Hachette's complaint to Amazon, actually.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by kaufman

Well, that's what they tried to charge me.

Having said that, someone already pointed out that some people are charged tax on Amazon purchases as well.

Yes, some do get charged tax from Amazon. I didn't think anyone got charged tax in the US for ordering from Kobo's website.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by blue_skies

I totally agree! I used to often try to read my Amazon purchased ebooks on my computer using the Kindle app, and the images were so ridiculously tiny and low resolution they were worthless. It was especially frustrating for non-fiction books like those with fashion illustrations or interior design photos... with teeny-tiny photos. I could never understand why they didn't just use nice high resolution photos.

The various devices should be able to figure out how to display a higher resolution photo rather than defaulting to worthless low resolution photos. I had to return books because the photos were so awful.

I made up a couple of books for my own use and always used the largest photos I could, and they never failed to display on my Kindle Keyboard. I'm not sure what the difference is in the case where a previous poster here said large photos won't display on Kindle devices. Maybe they were way bigger than the large photos I was using. Still, no reason to use poor quality. Fix the eReader software instead!

Publishers and developers really need to fix this.

It's not a problem with the software on the Kindle. It's a problem with the publishers using low resolution images. And as for maps, sometimes they need to rotate the map as the screen isn't wide enough so it needs to be rotated to be in landscape.

Readers cannot decide to display higher resolution images if they do not exist in the eBook. The best you can do is stretch the image to make it larger on screen. That doesn't always work as doing so makes the image fuzzy.

What I do sometimes is to try to find a larger map and use that it put in the eBook. Can't always do that, but sometimes it works.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by RHWright

Kobo is a viable alternative, but the US seems an afterthought to them. Sony is also pretty much done here.

Kobo did very well (IMHO) getting their readers in independent book stores. As I saw on my last cruise, more Kobo (by an easily noticeable amount) were in use then any other brand eInk Reader combined (from what I saw).

Sony is in no way pretty much done. Sony is determinately done since they have stopped making Readers and closed their eBook store.

B&N needs to redo their nook interface from the ground up and they need to update the hardware and get rid of the walled garden (the partitioned memory).

As far as the US goes, it's mostly between Amazon & Kobo.

[duydangle]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I believe that's the Basic Kindle, not the Voyage.

Yeah I meant the new basic kindle, I also consider buy it too.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by ApK

I believe that is exactly Hachette's complaint to Amazon, actually.

I thought one of Hachette's complaints is that Amazon is pricing too high.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by ApK

I believe that is exactly Hachette's complaint to Amazon, actually.

Not exactly the same, is it?

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

B&N needs to redo their nook interface from the ground up and they need to update the hardware and get rid of the walled garden (the partitioned memory).

I think the Nook interface is probably the least of B&N's problems. Personally I like the interface, but that's the eReader I started with so that's probably why.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

My current problem is that I *did* go ahead and order the Voyage. My basic K4 has been hanging lately, and I like the buttons on that model.

The problem is that I'm accustomed to only waiting 2 days for whichever Cool Toy I have ordered. My Cool Toy fix that I'm salivating for is so far delayed that I'm browsing for something ELSE to buy just so that something Cool will arrive in 2 days. I think I'm addicted to shopping.....

Add another K4 Basic to your collection. It appears Staples (at least) still has them in stock.

http://www.staples.com/Kindle-WiFi-w...product_984297