New Kindle Voyage

[ApK]

Originally Posted by Skydog

but it still is not an equitable comparison (price wise) as display size and SD card slot add to the cost. It would be if the Voyage had the same footprint and card slot.

One could counter that the HD processor is slower, it's too heavy, it doesn't have adaptive lighting, bezel controls, and...oh yeah...integrated access to Amazon's bookstore...clearly it's inequitable because the Voyage is in a much higher class! How dare Kobo charge so much?!

No, not really. You say "not equitable" but it's clear that you mean "not what I want." They ARE the same class: High-end dedicated ereaders, and comparing them is quite proper. The features you list are not an inequity on either side, they are differentiators.

On the matter of screen size, were 5" readers ever significant less expensive than 6" readers? And 5 to 6 is a bigger percentage jump than 6 to 6.8.

ApK

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by kaufman

I don't think many people really use the SD card. Its really just a marketing thing. I tried it once and it really slows down everything.

That's strange, since the Aura HD uses a microSD card as its internal storage.

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by ApK

One could counter that the HD processor is slower, it's too heavy, it doesn't have adaptive lighting, bezel controls, and...oh yeah...integrated access to Amazon's bookstore...clearly it's inequitable because the Voyage is in a much higher class! How dare Kobo charge so much?!

No, not really. You say "not equitable" but it's clear that you mean "not what I want." They ARE the same class: High-end dedicated ereaders, and comparing them is quite proper. The features you list are not an inequity on either side, they are differentiators.

On the matter of screen size, were 5" readers ever significant less expensive than 6" readers? And 5 to 6 is a bigger percentage jump than 6 to 6.8.

ApK

Since I live in mythic splendor and have access to wealth beyond count, I'll just buy both.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by Skydog

I agree regarding tradeoffs but it still is not an equitable comparison (price wise) as display size and SD card slot add to the cost. It would be if the Voyage had the same footprint and card slot.

What adds more to the cost though, the .8" in display size of the HD or the higher pixel density of the Voyage? I'd guess that at this point & time the high pixel density displays might have a higher rejection rate as they get things up and running so they might cost more than a display that's been in use for a while.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

That's strange, since the Aura HD uses a microSD card as its internal storage.

Strange, but true. Go take a look on the Kobo forum.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by kaufman

I don't think many people really use the SD card. Its really just a marketing thing. I tried it once and it really slows down everything.

Raises hand. I have about 3,500 books on a card (transferred as kePub using Calibre) and it runs pretty smooth. That said I don't need the feature & only started doing things that way because occasionally I've had the reset my device due to glitchy firmware (this way I don't have to re-transfer everything).

[booklover6]

Originally Posted by Yolina

And you'd think that for that price, they could finally let us be able to use our own screensavers and fonts. If the Voyage can be jailbroken, then I'll have a think about getting one

Hear, hear! If the smart people of MR can jailbreak it, I'll think about getting one. Maybe. Especially if I can get it on sale.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Raises hand. I have about 3,500 books on a card (transferred as kePub using Calibre) and it runs pretty smooth. That said I don't need the feature & only started doing things that way because occasionally I've had the reset my device due to glitchy firmware (this way I don't have to re-transfer everything).

Interesting. What does "pretty smooth" mean?

How long does it take you to go from collection to collection? Do you ever have trouble with covers not appearing? Occasional lockups?

Perhaps they have fixed the issues in one of the recent firmware updates.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Most likely not. There's never been any touch screen Reader that's has a setting to turn off page turns even if there are hardware buttons. I don't see this happening with the Voyage.

I imagine any good ebook app under android can do this. Certainly, I can do it with Aireader and Coolreader on my Nook ST.

Also, I think PRS+ allowed the touchscreen to be deactivated on a Sony.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by kaufman

Strange, but true. Go take a look on the Kobo forum.

That is how I learned of it in the first place. I've not yet seen an explanation of why an inaccessible SD card would be faster than an accessible one.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by kaufman

Interesting. What does "pretty smooth" mean?

How long does it take you to go from collection to collection? Do you ever have trouble with covers not appearing? Occasional lockups?

Perhaps they have fixed the issues in one of the recent firmware updates.

Pretty smooth meaning that there can be a bit of lag sometimes if browsing library "pages" or switching from home to library.

I don't use collections anymore, I generally just use the library search which is quite responsive. Not had any trouble with covers and never had a lockup.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Pretty smooth meaning that there can be a bit of lag sometimes if browsing library "pages" or switching from home to library.

I don't use collections anymore, I generally just use the library search which is quite responsive. Not had any trouble with covers and never had a lockup.

That sounds pretty smooth to me.

That must have fixed it up a lot in the last few firmware updates.

Ok, to revise what I said before, I only know of one person who has a large library on an SD card on the Aurda HD.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by Waylander

I doubt that Voyage will be at all hackable, as the Paperwhite 2 has been pretty closed up now. In which case, if I can't install JBPatch, and i need a new ereader, then I'll be going Kobo.

Really? I thought the PW2 was as hackable as the PW1.

[booklover6]

Originally Posted by kaufman

That sounds pretty smooth to me.

That must have fixed it up a lot in the last few firmware updates.

Ok, to revise what I said before, I only know of one person who has a large library on an SD card on the Aurda HD.

I have a large library on replaced internal SD cards in my Mini and Glo. They run just as fast as the original cards they were shipped with. So, I don't need an exterior card on the Glo since they have 16gb and 32 gb internal cards.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by sparklemotion

I considered the Kobo H20 too. I think it looks really nice.

If I can find a cover that is similar to my current Kindle's (which means, no plastic edges, no clasps, no metal, no protrusions, blablabla) I might just order the H2O and play with it. It tempts me far more than the Kindle Voyage, to be honest. In the Netherlands, I can return it within two weeks, if handled carefully, so the only loss I might sustain are some shipment costs and an €10 Ebay cover I won't be using.

Originally Posted by booklover6

I have a large library on replaced internal SD cards in my Mini and Glo. They run just as fast as the original cards they were shipped with. So, I don't need an exterior card on the Glo since they have 16gb and 32 gb internal cards.

Seeing the prices of the current SD cards, Kobo should just have created a reader with a slide-off back cover (just like phones used to have), and deliver the reader with no card. The buyer could then easily install a card of any size. The external slot could then be dropped.

If the OS is on the card, they could still offer a reader with different card sizes, for a reasonable amount of extra money. It would make usage easier, and still one-up the Kindle regarding storage.