|  11-19-2008, 12:03 AM | #16 | 
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			If you're interested in hard science fiction, Alison Sinclair might be worth a look-up. There's an interesting article online about world building and science in her novel Blueheart: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/blueheart.htm
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|  11-19-2008, 05:44 AM | #17 | 
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			I notice that garygibsonsf has been too shy to recommend his own excellent Stealing Light, which is available as an ebook from waterstones for the sony if you follow the link. I'm not sure if there's a kindle edition about the place, but you can always demand one from amazon. This is hard SF, but perhaps not "hard as nails". I would not have been so shy to mention my own book if it were hard enough for you, but I doubt it  Definitely fitting that description is Blindsight by Peter Watts, but I can only find it as a kindle edition, unfortunately. However, earlier books of his are available for free on the download section of this forum. | 
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|  11-19-2008, 07:30 AM | #18 | 
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			Vernor Vinge with his A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky Robert Buettner with his Orphanage series if you like your SF a la Starship Troopers I am a big fan of Richard Morgan and his Takeshi Kovacs series. | 
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|  11-19-2008, 08:52 AM | #19 | |
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|  11-19-2008, 09:40 AM | #20 | 
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			I hang my head in shame   My only excuse is... *quickly leaves room* | 
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|  11-19-2008, 09:43 AM | #21 | 
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			Great topic--I've recently been reading  Scalzi and Richard Morgan and I recently re-acquainted myself with Vernor Vinge through the Kindle edition of Fire in the Sky (all of whom are mentioned above). I would add to this list Chris Moriarty--Spin Control. Emergent systems, AI's, a conflict between humans on a dying earth and space-born genetic constructs, and a spy story as well -- all told with a great writing style and attention to detail and character. | 
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|  11-19-2008, 10:49 AM | #22 | 
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			Transhuman - a collection of short stories from Baen.
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|  11-19-2008, 11:20 AM | #23 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,451 Karma: 1550000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch, HPC Evo 4G LTE | Quote: 
 There are some really cool ideas in A Fire Upon the Deep, but certain aspects of it are too far out of our current understanding of the Universe to make it hard. -- Bill | |
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|  11-19-2008, 11:33 AM | #24 | 
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			[QUOTE=tHeFiRsTiDioT;292116]Vernor Vinge with his A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky I'm with McHale here. I LOVE those, but wonder if it is true hard scifi. Don't start with Blind Sight. It's #4 in the series. Start with Starfish, Maelstrom, Behemoth, then Blind Sight. I'm slowly making my way thru the series, and it is great. Now if I only had 5 uninterrupted minutes to actually read them! | 
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|  11-19-2008, 06:14 PM | #25 | 
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			I am so excited - what a great list of books - in browsing them, some just jumped out as exactly what I was looking for - and - I love finding new authors for me. Thanks again. I made a list of all the recommendations.
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|  11-19-2008, 08:02 PM | #26 | |
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|  11-19-2008, 09:26 PM | #27 | 
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|  11-19-2008, 11:12 PM | #28 | 
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			How about some appetizers first, here are some short story suggestions. Becoming Elijah by Bob Meads Dinosaurs by Walter Jon Williams Life Hutch by Harlan Ellison Quarks at Appomattox by Charles L. Harness Think Like a Dinosaur by James Patrick Kelly Main course, novels. Artifact by Gregory Benford You didn't mention everything you had read, but I hope you have read Greg Bear's Eon, Legacy and Eternity; and Asimov's robot stories. | 
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|  11-19-2008, 11:25 PM | #29 | 
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			Surprisingly, no mention of Arthur C Clarke?
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|  11-20-2008, 06:30 AM | #30 | |
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			[QUOTE=DixieGal;292262] Quote: 
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