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Old 09-11-2014, 11:23 AM   #106
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Nice, xcgsgh. Copy & paste work. Congrats
Already reported it as spam - got an image in it too.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:34 AM   #107
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:23 PM   #108
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:12 PM   #109
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there is this newfangled thing called hyphenation. You divide words at the end of the line (and indicate the said division by use of a hyphen - hence the name). It greatly reduces uneven spaces between words in a fully justified text with relatively few words on line - such as on a e-book reader screen.
It's hardly new fangled (although it might be for ereaders), it's been around for years in graphic design layout programs. It's basically just a dictionary (user customisable in most instances) containing words that should be hyphenated with guidelines as to where the hyphen should fall. It should be a doddle to include this within ereader software.

Incidentally, it isn't just used within justified text (although it does help immensely with avoiding those ugly wide inter-word spaces) but also with aligned left text as well, which helps avoid particularly short lines.

Widow and orphan toggles would be helpful too.

The presentation, control and flow of text in almost all ereaders is still pretty archaic, particularly given the ability of a user to over-ride most ebook settings.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:45 PM   #110
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It's hardly new fangled (although it might be for ereaders), it's been around for years in graphic design layout programs. It's basically just a dictionary (user customisable in most instances) containing words that should be hyphenated with guidelines as to where the hyphen should fall. It should be a doddle to include this within ereader software.
I was just being sarcastic.
Go and google up pictures of THE first boo printed using movable type. Yes, the Gutenberg Bible. Notice that the text is hyphenated. Also notice that hyphens go outside the text bounding box - this is less disruptive than having them inside and creating optical "notch" on the right edge of text.
Yet, Kindles and other readers lack such fundamental typographical tool, together with 50 other typographic features that were developed in the last 560 years since the first book was typeset using movable type.
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Incidentally, it isn't just used within justified text (although it does help immensely with avoiding those ugly wide inter-word spaces) but also with aligned left text as well, which helps avoid particularly short lines.

Widow and orphan toggles would be helpful too.
and quite a few other features. Contemporary e-book readers have more processing power than the PCs first used to typeset the texts using LaTeX or inDesign 1.0, yet, there is no reader that would be able to do a half decent job.
See the replies to my original post. The vast majority of readers just Do. Not. Care. Period.

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The presentation, control and flow of text in almost all ereaders is still pretty archaic, particularly given the ability of a user to over-ride most ebook settings.
This is what I was trying to point out. We have thrown 560 years of development in the area of typography out of window.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:17 PM   #111
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The vast majority of people just Do. Not. Care. Period. Either.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:24 PM   #112
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The vast majority of people just Do. Not. Care. Period. Either.
You took the words out of my mouth.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:26 PM   #113
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:45 PM   #114
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Perhaps not related, but the $20 discount for the PW2 has ended on the Canadian website. If a new eReader is imment why not keep it at the reduced price?
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:46 PM   #115
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Perhaps not related, but the $20 discount for the PW2 has ended on the Canadian website. If a new eReader is imment why not keep it at the reduced price?

That is a good point.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:53 PM   #116
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Perhaps not related, but the $20 discount for the PW2 has ended on the Canadian website. If a new eReader is imment why not keep it at the reduced price?
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:25 AM   #117
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They would release the extra-memory model to reduce inventory in advance of something new.
That makes no sense; the new model means additional stock and addition production runs.
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:41 AM   #118
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That makes no sense; the new model means additional stock and addition production runs.
Or are they shifting inventory of already built 4GB models to other markets trying to sell down overall inventory across the board after slowly selling through 2GB versions?
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The kindle ($69) is no longer available on Amazon, it's not promoted in the kindle page anymore.
Maybe this year only the kindle 4 will be updated.
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The kindle ($69) is no longer available on Amazon, it's not promoted in the kindle page anymore.
Maybe this year only the kindle 4 will be updated.
Delisting is a good sign something will change. Who knows either one size fits all, or PW will be the new low cost version.
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