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Old 08-29-2014, 05:28 PM   #91
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I'm definately buying the Aura H20, I'd still like a new PW but the Aura is a must have.

Two weeks of sitting in the surf reading, or dangling my legs in the pool, plus reading in the bath the rest of the year makes it worth every penny.
Well, reading in the surf... it's waterproof, but is it also sand and salt proof? I mean, e-ink screens are fragile. I would be careful wiping water off the screen, or you could easily scratch it if it has sand or salt in it.
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Old 08-30-2014, 10:01 AM   #92
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Well, reading in the surf... it's waterproof, but is it also sand and salt proof? I mean, e-ink screens are fragile. I would be careful wiping water off the screen, or you could easily scratch it if it has sand or salt in it.
It is dust proof, that should be enough to sand proof it. As for salt - if dissolved in water won't scratch.

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It would be very unwise of Amazon to do the same as Kobo, unless they plan on running two hardware lines. Most Kindle buyers are probably NOT the ones spending money on premium ereaders, and would not take kindly to having no option but to pay extra for waterproofing.
They are running two hardware lines in eink: basic bare bones Kindle and Paperwhite. Unless they slowly discontinue the basic Kindle?
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:39 AM   #93
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They are running two hardware lines in eink: basic bare bones Kindle and Paperwhite. Unless they slowly discontinue the basic Kindle?
The basic Kindle has not been updated in absolutely ages I believe.

Amazon could freeze the PW too, and say that only premium devices get upgrades and new features. Will they?
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Old 08-31-2014, 05:38 AM   #94
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The basic Kindle has not been updated in absolutely ages I believe.

Amazon could freeze the PW too, and say that only premium devices get upgrades and new features. Will they?
Or they could just use the same software for both the "basic" Paperwhite and a new premium model... You cannot strip much from a model that only has touch screen and on-off button anyway...
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:13 PM   #95
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The basic Kindle has not been updated in absolutely ages I believe.

Amazon could freeze the PW too, and say that only premium devices get upgrades and new features. Will they?
There is not a whole lot to fix on the PW that can be done in software only. If Amazon wants me to upgrade, they need to do it with some compelling hardware upgrades to convince me. Same for the basic Kindle - is there need for a software update?

I will welcome the freezing of updates to my PW1 if it means that a better hardware model is coming.
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:37 PM   #96
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For me the bath would be the biggest thing. Not so much dropping it in the bath but just the humidity from a 30 minute read. That can't be good for electronics.
The paperwhite will operate fine inside of a 5 cent zip lock bag. I would not pay even $20 more for a 'water proof' model. I just don't read in those environments (no beaches or baths). And even the Aura H20 is not waterproof at any depth. If it sinks to the bottom of a pool, it could still be damaged.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:33 PM   #97
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There is not a whole lot to fix on the PW that can be done in software only. If Amazon wants me to upgrade, they need to do it with some compelling hardware upgrades to convince me. Same for the basic Kindle - is there need for a software update?

I will welcome the freezing of updates to my PW1 if it means that a better hardware model is coming.
I was not speaking of freezing the PW1, I was referring to freezing the PW line in favor of the theoretical waterproof watever line.

Amazon already has a basic line frozen in development in every respect, for the low-end group, and the Touch/PW line of decent devices with modern tech, with active development, with hardware upgrades and matched with software innovation (to watever extent that may matter).

If they made a premium waterproof model, they must either freeze the Touch/PW line of middle-class Kindles, or keep both lines in active HW/SW development. Either edge out the majority of buyers in favor of a premium line, or commit to developing and marketing two Kindles. And Amazon doesn't strike me as interested in doing so.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:28 AM   #98
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Don't know how many here use their Kindle with the leather-finished cover from Amazon. I do this daily and am happy with the added protection while commuting, the leather feel, the turn-off with the front cover - and nowadays find the device itself rather flimsy. So I surely would have a decco at a new Kindle if it would be cased directly in such a cover to check if dimensions and weight feel alright for me.
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:42 PM   #99
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It's all too quiet on the western front. But then, I don't remember if we usually get rumors prior to kindle releases. There were lots of leaks about the 3d kindle phone, though.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:34 PM   #100
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It's all too quiet on the western front. But then, I don't remember if we usually get rumors prior to kindle releases. There were lots of leaks about the 3d kindle phone, though.
That is because Amazon does not usually release anything official prior to having a finished product that is ready for mass production and passed certification. I rather have no leak, than a leak that is false. And if the leak is true, I would still have to wait. It is very unlikely that Amazon has nothing to compete. Competitors early leaks and releases gives Amazon the option to strategically market which features are superior on their device.
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For me to upgrade from my PW1
Same form factor as the PW1/2 so my existing case fits
Better screen lighting
Improved image quality contrast/resulution
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However the biggest improvement would be software, why oh why cant I manage the collection and such from my PC.

When I put a book in a colloection I'd like it to dissappear from the home screen.
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:03 PM   #102
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For me to upgrade from my PW1
Same form factor as the PW1/2 so my existing case fits
Better screen lighting
Improved image quality contrast/resulution
Faster page turn


However the biggest improvement would be software, why oh why cant I manage the collection and such from my PC.

When I put a book in a colloection I'd like it to dissappear from the home screen.
Set your Kindle to sort by collections. When you do that, the only books you see on your home screen are the ones that are not in collections.

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That is because Amazon does not usually release anything official prior to having a finished product that is ready for mass production and passed certification. I rather have no leak, than a leak that is false. And if the leak is true, I would still have to wait. It is very unlikely that Amazon has nothing to compete. Competitors early leaks and releases gives Amazon the option to strategically market which features are superior on their device.
They don't say anything officially but there are still leaks. FCC filing and so forth.
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I also would really, really like to be able to manage my collections from my desktop. I actually like the changes in collections...now that they sync among devices, I only keep a few books on my PW unless I know I'm going to be out of Wifi reach for a while. But it's a pain to manage the collections from the PW.
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Set your Kindle to sort by collections. When you do that, the only books you see on your home screen are the ones that are not in collections.

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Thanks for the tip will give that a go.
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