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Old 08-23-2014, 06:18 PM   #61
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I'm not surprised, but I can understand why they made that decision.

I probably wait 'till the Netronix 6.8" with Android hits the markets (and under which brandnames).
Pretty much the same device and made by the same manufacturer. This assures a good build quality as I'm not so confident that the build quality of the Onyx Boox T68 will be just as good. Android adds more flexibility to install a device.

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As long as it works as an ereader, I'm not concerned with the ability to install other applications. I've played with Android on an eInk display and the kindest words I can are that I'm not going to try again for quite a while.

Since I doubt that an ereader/cell phone combo is going to be coming anytime soon, I'll have my cell phone for the videos, web browsing, email, etc. Or perhaps one of my tablet collection for when I want the larger display.

And gentle hint: only add the video identifier portion of a Youtube URL to get a video that will play.

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Old 08-23-2014, 06:46 PM   #62
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Article here says it could be out in a weeks time

http://liliputing.com/2014/08/kobos-...t-1st-179.html
Guess I better start saving my pennies, im down for this asap!
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:50 PM   #63
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Article here says it could be out in a weeks time

http://liliputing.com/2014/08/kobos-...t-1st-179.html
The original articles said available for PRE-ORDER on Sept 1, so likely it will be at least a couple of weeks to a month before actual devices are in the wild.
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Old 08-24-2014, 01:22 AM   #64
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The original articles said available for PRE-ORDER on Sept 1, so likely it will be at least a couple of weeks to a month before actual devices are in the wild.
Yes I agree. I want one but from WHSmith in the UK and from my local store so hopefully it's going to be something I can use my Christmas present money on.
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There's a manufacturer in the US, who waterproofs more or less all kinds of gadgets:
http://waterfi.com/waterproof-kindle
From the FAQ:

Do you waterproof any products other than what you sell on your website?

Not currently, but we are always open to new ideas and suggestions on which devices to waterproof.

So for ebook readers it's only a Kindle Paperwhite.
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Old 08-24-2014, 05:10 AM   #66
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As long as it works as an ereader, I'm not concerned with the ability to install other applications.
Don't get me wrong. I don't want to turn a ereader into a poor tablet.
I prefer some additional flexibility that allows installing other reading applications and I'm aware there are other ways to do this on current Kobo hardware.
Android isn't worse than Qt on a ereading device both need to be optimized for the hardware they are running on. Many ODM/OEM manufacturers have ereader reference designs for both OS.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:42 AM   #67
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Don't get me wrong. I don't want to turn a ereader into a poor tablet.
I prefer some additional flexibility that allows installing other reading applications and I'm aware there are other ways to do this on current Kobo hardware.
Android isn't worse than Qt on a ereading device both need to be optimized for the hardware they are running on. Many ODM/OEM manufacturers have ereader reference designs for both OS.
Other reading applications, I can agree with. From what I've see looking at comments about various Android eInk implementations, the majority of the complaints come down to a simple the screen is too slow for .... (fill in the application of your choice from attempting to watch videos, browsing complex web pages, animation, etc.).

I suspect you meant Android vs. Linux. QT is a cross-platform framework that allows development of GUI applications -- command line also but not as commonly seen. Example that many here would be familiar with is Calibre where using QT allowed Windows/Linux/MacOSX implementations without a massive rewrite for each platform. In theory, Calibre could also be ported to Android using the QT Android implementation.

If you look at the Kobo firmware package, it seems to have 3 QT implementations (QT 5.2.1 in it's own directory plus QT 4.6.2 and QT 4.8.0 in the Trolltech directory --Trolltech being the original producers of QT).

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Old 08-24-2014, 12:43 PM   #68
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So the H2O will have extra protection against nasty ol water & dust but will (supposedly) be lighter and thinner than the HD? Nice! It sorta looks like the back of the H2O has a similar back grip like the Aura. Again, nice!

If the new screen proves to be as good as or better than the HD I'll have no choice...no choice whatsoever than to buy one.
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Personally I consider a waterproof reader interesting in the sense that if I am reading outside and it starts to rain, I won't have to worry about it getting damaged. But I would probably never sink my reader underwater. What for ?
It's not like you can read underwater anyways.
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Personally I consider a waterproof reader interesting in the sense that if I am reading outside and it starts to rain, I won't have to worry about it getting damaged. But I would probably never sink my reader underwater. What for ?
It's not like you can read underwater anyways.
One of my co-workers toasted her Samsung tablet (I think it was a Tab 3 8") by dropping it in the bathtub. She has back issues and evidently a long soak in hot water and Epsom salts helps with the pain and has fewer side effects than her prescription medication. Her tablet had a different outlook on being dropped into electrolyte rich water. Future Shop replaced it under an extended warranty -- one of the few times I've heard of where purchasing an extended warranty was worthwhile -- but she is very interested in an ereader that might survive such an accidental immersion.

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Old 08-25-2014, 05:11 AM   #71
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but will (supposedly) be lighter and thinner than the HD? Nice! It sorta looks like the back of the H2O has a similar back grip like the Aura. Again, nice!
Aura H2O
Weight: 233 g
Dimensions: 179 x 129 x 9.7 mm

Aura HD
Weight: 240 g
Dimensions: 175.7 x 128.3 x 11.7 mm
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Personally I consider a waterproof reader interesting in the sense that if I am reading outside and it starts to rain, I won't have to worry about it getting damaged. But I would probably never sink my reader underwater. What for ?
It's not like you can read underwater anyways.

.....but YOU would you get wet!
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.....but YOU would you get wet!
Most definitely the point! You would get wet and who knows you might even play with Rubber Ducky....


.....Rubber Ducky, I love you..... Rubber Ducky, your the one.....

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I sometimes read over 200ft+ deep water. I wonder if there is a way to attach a lanyard to this device.

http://i.imgur.com/TxT0ZAw.jpg
*Using a Nook STG (rooted), CoolReader App with Touchscreen locked. Case is one of those generic waterproof bags for electronics.

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But will it have pinpricks? I sent my Aura back because it had some. I'm now waiting to see what these new models will be like.

There's no point having all this water and dust proof if the thing has pinpricks. This issue is a blight on ereaders. It's a lottery, you never know if yours will have them. Which is not good enough imo. Kobo, Amazon etc. need to do more to end this problem.
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