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Old 08-19-2014, 10:12 PM   #76
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I guess different people/sites have different interpretations for words like "detailed", and "help with DRM removal". I would consider help with the tools installation roughly equivalent to help with the tools themselves, so I would consider MR policy a 6.2 on the seriousness scale (on a scale of 1 to 10).
Guess it depends on if you consider discussion of a checkbox on the download page help with tools installation since a free download service is what they were discussing. All policies are open to interpretation and what ultimately matters is what Alex wants and how hard core he has told his mods to be in their interpretation. I'm sure the mods discuss it quite a bit in their private forum.

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Old 08-20-2014, 07:27 AM   #77
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Guess it depends on if you consider discussion of a checkbox on the download page help with tools installation since a free download service is what they were discussing. All policies are open to interpretation and what ultimately matters is what Alex wants and how hard core he has told his mods to be in their interpretation. I'm sure the mods discuss it quite a bit in their private forum.
I agree.

But it was more than just a "checkbox". There's talk of adblockers, QT, Calibre related stuff, ...

And it applies to all the policies. There are people who follow the rules, people who have to push them to the limit, people who break them. You see it on all sites.

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... ultimately matters is what Alex wants and how hard core he has told his mods to be in their interpretation ...
I disagree. Ultimately, it is what we decide; if we don't like it We'll leave.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:59 AM   #78
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But it was more than just a "checkbox". There's talk of adblockers, QT, Calibre related stuff, ...
Ad-blockers? So what. The mentions of QT were just in general about what changed with the updated tools & the update to Calibre 2.0 using QT5. Again, so what. Still not any kind of detailed DRM removal instruction?
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:04 AM   #79
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I agree.

But it was more than just a "checkbox". There's talk of adblockers, QT, Calibre related stuff, ...

And it applies to all the policies. There are people who follow the rules, people who have to push them to the limit, people who break them. You see it on all sites.


I disagree. Ultimately, it is what we decide; if we don't like it We'll leave.
Perhaps, but if someone decides they don't like x and leave a given site then they are still in effect following the rules that the site owner set up. And it's far better to follow a rule that has a reason for existing than see the site itself be taken down. Which is probably what would happen if the rules against discussing DRM removal weren't enforced and the authorities were to become involved. It maybe almost impossible to get info. off the web once posted but there is no such difficulty with bringing suit against someone who flaunts the law. And I doubt the people who own the server that Mobileread is hosted on want to chance becoming co-defendants in a legal action either.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:22 AM   #80
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DRM removal has never been a black and white topic. I don't know why anyone would think rules governing its discussion would be any more (or less) so.
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DRM removal has never been a black and white topic. I don't know why anyone would think rules governing its discussion would be any more (or less) so.
Touche. In fact there are very few topics of discussion period that are black and white I think. That's not to say there are none, but a lot of things depend upon our point of view.
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:13 AM   #82
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The important thing to keep in mind is that certain outside powers don't like DRM removal, and if someone posts something that leads to one of those certain powers taking legal action against MobileRead, you can bet that MobileRead's owner, MobileRead's moderation team, and MobileRead's rank and file members who have come to depend on MobileRead aren't going to be too kindly disposed to that person.
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:07 PM   #83
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:17 PM   #84
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:41 PM   #85
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:46 PM   #86
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can we give the cat stuff a rest please ....
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There's no room on MR for anti cat bigotry, IMHO. If a cat scratches you and leave ugly painful welts, don't blame the cat. Blame evolution for leaving you pelt less and thin skinned!

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Are you cat-agorically opposed to the topic Lynx-lynx? Sorry I just couldn't resist.
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The link to download the tools lead nowhere, it says the link is not valid. Also, tons of viruses on that page, he should go back to the host of the previous tool, no viruses and download clearly marked. And Alf has removed the comments on his blog so it's impossible to tell him about the issues which is really frustrating. I've tried on numerous browsers: IE, Palemoon (Firefox), Opera and Chrome.

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