Kobo Firmware 3.5.0

[davidfor]

murg: I think that is charger or even cable specific. If I use my iPad charger, I get the prompt. But, the cheap charger that my son uses for his phone doesn't prompt.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by murg

I just discovered a 3.3.0 bug that's been fixed in 3.5.0 (I don't remember anyone raising it, so please forgive if they have).

When plugging my Glo into a power only USB (wall plug), in 3.3.0, it thought that I was connecting to a computer, and asked if I wanted to connect?

In 3.5.0, the Glo has gone back to the normal behaviour of "don't ask, just charge".

On my Aura HD, that depends on the charger I use. The charger for my Nexus 7 and my old Blackberry charger just start charging, my iPad charger asks and my dual USB socket car charger asks if I plug into the iPad capable (2.1A) outlet and doesn't if I plug into the 800mA outlet.

Regards,
David

[Nick_1964]

I stumbled into this because my old Sony reader won't used the 5 volt adaptor from my HTC while both usb.:
http://askleo.com/why-dont-all-usb-c...l-usb-devices/
I have a wall adapter, 220 volts comes out for normal use so you don't lost your outlet.
Under it are two usb connectors.
The together power is more then 2000 milli amps.
It is not important because the adaptor only gives what the device needed.
But some devices like my old sony and my Aura HD detects when the adaptor can give more and then ask: is this a computer or do you only want to use the charging.
My old Sony just don't want to charge when there is more then 500 milli amps present.
But also a second thing can occurs... and I have to write this from memory so it can be possible that I explain it the other way around but that doesn't is important for the story.
An usb outlet has 4 lines, 1,2,3, and 4.
Point 1 gives 5 volts, 2 is minus data , 3 is plus data, 4 is zero for loading.
Some adapter makers just put point 2 and 4 together, they are both minus eh...
But then some of my devices detects the cirquit of the charger because there is something happening on the minus side of the dataline and thinks that it is a computer,and comes up with the question.
But there is not coming anything on line 3 so my old Sony "thinks" this is a computer, nothing is coming on line 3 so I just disconnect.
And will not charge.... While the Aura does.
But some device makers do separate in the device point 2 and 4 for safety.
If you put an adaptor on it that has not properly seperated point 2 and 4, some devices will not accept it.
In theory power from a defective charger can come on the + or - dataline it will kill your device, so if the device have a protect cirquit on it and the charger isn't properly wired inside, the device will not accept it at all.
If you have a combination of such a charger, and such a protected device you can get all kinds of problems with device one,that ask you if you want to connect or not with the computer that isn't there at all, or it will not charge,when another device that is not "protected" will accept it without problems.
Some cable makers make only charging cables,most for devices that uses the usb only for charging and have another connector for data, like one of my tablets, it has a I don't know how much wires for data connection for connecting HDMI, docking station, but a micro usb only for charging.
The provided charging cable has only 2 wires in it, so it works as a charger cable, but not for data, but it looks like a "normal one".
When I use that cable on my Kobo it asks nothing,just charges but no data transfer.
Tooks me a while to find that out, because I switched the 2 usb cables and don't understand why calibre doesn't want to send anything to my Kobo anymore...
So there can be a total blending/mixing of all situations when u use some adapters or mixed cables or devices...

As for the Kobo and the firmware, I don't know who my affiliate is, I do know whith all other updates that I read in the forum that people are receiving firmware updates and I get them weeks later, or don't get them at all ( or I just don't want to wait and manually install it ) but with my Sony they even did spread two updates.. there was a problem with a dutch dictionary, and only dutch owners got the update... and the T2 and T3 are sold here cheaper when you buy the N type, it is not sold outside the Netherlands but they ripped out all the dictionary's and leave only the Dutch-English on it because they use commercial dictionary's and pay less if they are not included... But they don't receive the updates "normal Sony's " got..
So USB is not only usb

[Corpsegoddess]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Kobo have stated that firmware 3.5.0 will be released for the Glo, Aura and Aura HD. They state the improvements as:

• Better Annotations Experience
• Various Bug Fixes
• Stability Improvements

Here is my list of changes I saw during the beta process:

• Annotations list
  • completely updated
  • Most of this was in 3.4.1, but some things didn't work well
• New Adobe RMSDK
  • Support for new Adobe DRM
  • Long paragraph bug is fixed!
• Light state remembered across sleep, power off and connection to PC
• Search
  • Radio buttons for location replaced with drop-down at end of list
  • Sort options in result list
• Less flashing when scrolling in the browser

Known bug fixes:

• Long paragraphs. Yes, I mentioned it above, but it's worth repeating
• If "Track reading activity" is not selected, the reading stats tile is no longer displayed after finishing a book.

There are probably some other things, but, these are the things I noticed.

Is there a release date for this? I have my Kobo set up to sync every night, and as of last night, I'm still on 3.3.0.

[Corpsegoddess]

Originally Posted by treadlightly

I've seen it in shorter books as well. It happens about once a novel for me (about once every 300 pages). I read epubs only.

Same thing happens to me, also at least once a book (of any length). I also only read epubs.

[volpo]

I got a Glo a couple of weeks ago and the first thing i did was to sideload v3.5 of the firmware. I updated from a Touch.

I find the Glo less sensitive to touch or tap than the Touch. It misses 1 out of ten taps/swipes/touches. Anybody else see this? Can I do anything to make the Glo a bit more sensitive?

Thanks,

V

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by Corpsegoddess

Is there a release date for this? I have my Kobo set up to sync every night, and as of last night, I'm still on 3.3.0.

That post was made on the release date. Kobo always roll the firmware out slowly. I have received it in the past after three or four weeks. But, if you read the last page or so, people are wondering if it might have been pulled. I don't think so, but it feels like the rollout has slowed.

[Corpsegoddess]

Originally Posted by davidfor

That post was made on the release date. Kobo always roll the firmware out slowly. I have received it in the past after three or four weeks. But, if you read the last page or so, people are wondering if it might have been pulled. I don't think so, but it feels like the rollout has slowed.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only person that didn't have it yet.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

I stumbled into this because my old Sony reader won't used the 5 volt adaptor from my HTC while both usb.:
http://askleo.com/why-dont-all-usb-c...l-usb-devices/
I have a wall adapter, 220 volts comes out for normal use so you don't lost your outlet.
Under it are two usb connectors.
The together power is more then 2000 milli amps.
It is not important because the adaptor only gives what the device needed.
But some devices like my old sony and my Aura HD detects when the adaptor can give more and then ask: is this a computer or do you only want to use the charging.
My old Sony just don't want to charge when there is more then 500 milli amps present.
But also a second thing can occurs... and I have to write this from memory so it can be possible that I explain it the other way around but that doesn't is important for the story.
An usb outlet has 4 lines, 1,2,3, and 4.
Point 1 gives 5 volts, 2 is minus data , 3 is plus data, 4 is zero for loading.
Some adapter makers just put point 2 and 4 together, they are both minus eh...
But then some of my devices detects the cirquit of the charger because there is something happening on the minus side of the dataline and thinks that it is a computer,and comes up with the question.
But there is not coming anything on line 3 so my old Sony "thinks" this is a computer, nothing is coming on line 3 so I just disconnect.
And will not charge.... While the Aura does.
But some device makers do separate in the device point 2 and 4 for safety.
If you put an adaptor on it that has not properly seperated point 2 and 4, some devices will not accept it.
In theory power from a defective charger can come on the + or - dataline it will kill your device, so if the device have a protect cirquit on it and the charger isn't properly wired inside, the device will not accept it at all.
If you have a combination of such a charger, and such a protected device you can get all kinds of problems with device one,that ask you if you want to connect or not with the computer that isn't there at all, or it will not charge,when another device that is not "protected" will accept it without problems.
Some cable makers make only charging cables,most for devices that uses the usb only for charging and have another connector for data, like one of my tablets, it has a I don't know how much wires for data connection for connecting HDMI, docking station, but a micro usb only for charging.
The provided charging cable has only 2 wires in it, so it works as a charger cable, but not for data, but it looks like a "normal one".
When I use that cable on my Kobo it asks nothing,just charges but no data transfer.
Tooks me a while to find that out, because I switched the 2 usb cables and don't understand why calibre doesn't want to send anything to my Kobo anymore...
So there can be a total blending/mixing of all situations when u use some adapters or mixed cables or devices...

I have this little USB cable that's called a charging cable. It makes sure all the pins are correct for charging. It means I can use any USB wall wart that has the correct output with any device that charges via a micro-USB port. I have a USB extension cable that works well. On my T1, I can use this cable with an Apple wall wart and the T1 will think it's plugged into a computer. This is maybe a 6" cable and it's one of my more important cables.

[DNSB]

One oddity I've noticed with 3.5.0 -- my computer USB connection still shows it as a 3.4.1 ereader. The first time I've seen the USB device not report a version that matched the device firmware version.

Regards,
David

[Rev. Bob]

Originally Posted by DNSB

One oddity I've noticed with 3.5.0 -- my computer USB connection still shows it as a 3.4.1 ereader. The first time I've seen the USB device not report a version that matched the device firmware version.

When going from 3.3.1 to 3.5.0, my machine redetected my Glo as 3.5.0, so it's at least not a universal issue. (Personally, I'd rather it just used a static string, so I wouldn't have to keep reassociating the drive letter every time a new firmware comes out.)

If you really want to change it, it's fairly simple, at least under Windows. You just delete the existing Kobo driver(s) in Device Manager, and then Windows will pick it up fresh when you next plug the reader in.

To anyone about to ask how to go about that - don't. If you're not familiar enough with your system to understand what to do from the shorthand, it's probably best to leave things be. No insult intended; I just don't want to be responsible for anyone messing something up...and for those who don't know, I had surgery yesterday and thus consider myself incapable of giving detailed information on such a subject for at least the next week. Especially from memory.

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by vandafc

in annotations the "chapter progress" information is good now (before it was always 0%) - at least for epub ;-)

It shows the "correct" progress (wrong chapter name, progress refererred to the whole book) right after adding the annotation. Turn off the reader (or maybe close the book) and the progress is back to 0%.

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by Corpsegoddess

Same thing happens to me, also at least once a book (of any length). I also only read epubs.

The sony has it to... long paragraph bug.
It is not a real bug.. the sony has it's internal memory, not the storage one, but the "working" memory.
So I was working with the 550 and I make ebooks myself ( I mean, scanning them from paper from scratch) build the internal HTML files and then make an epub of it with abbyy.
When the HTML was longer then a certain length the 550 just freezed.
It doesn't know how to break a to long chapter into 2 pieces.
Solution was simple, more chapter breaks, more html files, so it would not crash.
Sended the bug report to Sony ( I have some short lines to Sony Netherlands) and in the 600 and 650 the working memory was bigger but the 600 still freezes when the internal html in the ebook was to long to place in the "reading buffer" so starting from the 650 the devices just load until the reading buffer is filled,and if the html file is still to long, it breaks at that place, start filling the buffer, but you see a break,where it doesn't must be.
The third party Sony devices just load into memory but they "look" if there is a "soft coded" chapter break somewhere (where a new chapter begins) and it only reads into memorybuffer to there, and then fills the buffer again so it doesn't wait to the end of the html. ( the real hard coded chapter break)
But I am sure if I make a wrong one,without breaks, long enough, it will crashes or shows a break where it doesn't has to be. (empty the buffer and refill it.)
When I make a book from scatch, I insert a chapter break at every place there is a real one in the book, so every html file, has the exact lenght of a chapter in the real book.
When I have the wrong break at the Kobo and I look into the book,and it's a pre made, I see that sometimes 3 chapters of a book,or even more, don't have a hard coded chapter break in it but only the instruction to leave the rest of the page empty and start at a fresh one, so I edit it with Sigil and insert a real chapter break, so i end the HTML file where the chapter in the book ends...and the second time I read it, there will be no "false" break.
I think that the new 3.5.0. "looks" like the new Sony Generation where a chapter has to end ( there is some code in the book that instructs the device to begin at a new page, but not a real new end or beginning of the html) and it only loads to there into the reading buffer...
But there will be problems,because some "bookmakingprograms" have a hardcoded entry just to make chunks of HTML of a certain length and insert a chapter break from there, they devide a book from 600 pages into 2 chunks of HTML and the break is into somewhere, just in the middle, not at the "real end" of the chapter and if a device uses the old technique, the sony 550 will crash because of the length of the html or the new ones produces a false chapter break.
Don't fill the "reading" buffer until it's full, just fill it where the instruction is to start a new chapter and you will not have the break..until the maker of the book doesn't use chapters at all, or doesn't instruct the device to start at a fresh page but just insert 2 blanc lines and then a new chapter title, then you see a chapter title in the middle of the page with 2 blanc lines and sometimes a graphical devider like ~~ more and more books have this...it is the choice of the writer if he wants to start the chapter at a new fresh page or just use "deviders" but doesn't stop the chapter from there, if then the html is longer then the memory buffer is,you will have the "bug" again...

[davidfor]

Nick: Sorry, that isn't either the long paragraph bug or the one that has been referred to here. Or at least it isn't the cause.

The problem is that occasionally, the last few words of the last paragraph of a chapter will be pushed to a new page even when there is plenty of space for it. When I have seen it, I have checked the epub. The epub was well constructed. The chapter files were small (less than 100KB each). Looking at the code of the book, there is never a reason for this to happen.

I don't see it as much as others seem to. But, I see it enough to know it happens and have not been able to come up with a useful pattern.

[EndlessWaves]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

But also a second thing can occurs... and I have to write this from memory so it can be possible that I explain it the other way around but that doesn't is important for the story.
An usb outlet has 4 lines, 1,2,3, and 4.
Point 1 gives 5 volts, 2 is minus data , 3 is plus data, 4 is zero for loading.
Some adapter makers just put point 2 and 4 together, they are both minus eh...

It sounds like it's an Apple charger, that's one of the ways their nasty proprietary chargers worked.

Standard charging-only ports have the two data lines shorted together. If they're disconnected then the charger shouldn't be delivering more than half an amp (technically a tenth) whereas shorting them proclaims the charger is Battery Charging Spec compliant and can provide 1.5A.