Amazon Rising - Page 2

DiapDealer · 06-30-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jersysman

I think that since we as a country have lost a lot of manufacturing jobs, there is a difference in the mentality of the workforce.

The biggest difference in the workforce mentality I encounter is shock that an employee is expected to actually be productive the entire time they're not at lunch or on break.

tubemonkey · 06-30-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

And I didn't have to sit through half-a-day of meetings getting advice on how best to "move that over there" from people who had never moved anything anywhere.

...oooooo, what you said. Have you no respect for management?

mgbino · 06-30-2014, 04:23 PM

Actually, 12.50 an hour doesn't sound that bad for an entirely unskilled position.

TCSimpson · 06-30-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Of course B&N and Target and Walmart didn't have a thing to do with it.

This, right here. It's funny how they forget when B&N was putting bookstores out of business.

tubemonkey · 06-30-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TCSimpson

This, right here. It's funny how they forget when B&N was putting bookstores out of business.

...hush your mouth; everyone knows it was Amazon. In fact, Amazon was responsible for the 1929 stock market crash

speakingtohe · 06-30-2014, 05:27 PM

May people save a bit of money and get ahead at les than $12.50 an hour. Many people go farther in debt each year with no assets at 3 times that much.

I've worked at different levels of the wage scale starting at 30 cents an hour and making as much as $120 an hour. The $120 was very nice, but not steady work by any means and the stress level was high. made me pretty crazy and I spent a lot foolishly. Still it accounts for about 1/4 of my retirement savings.

These days I work a menial job for $30-$40 an hour which anyone can get (there are always vacancies where I work and many in the industry) and this type of job has paid of my condo in 7 years and contributed the other 3/4s of my retirement savings. And I actually like the work.

I think $12.50 is a reasonable rate for a starting position requiring few skills. But one can do much better or even much worse. Up to the individual whether they accept the job or not.

Helen

fjtorres · 06-30-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wizwor

My oldest is entering the workforce right now. I tell him everyday to find ways to enjoy his work. If he can enjoy what he is being paid to do, he will live a happy life.

I work with too many 'exploited' and 'underpaid' individuals who grouse but never take the initiative to find a new position or start their own business. No doubt they would be unhappy either way.

Way back in the day one of our teachers told us to either find a way to make a living at something we loved or learn to love what we could do to earn a living.

fjtorres · 06-30-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

...hush your mouth; everyone knows it was Amazon. In fact, Amazon was responsible for the 1929 stock market crash

And the San Francisco earthquake and great chicago fire.

(The reason Amazon has thousands of employees at LAB126 is the Time Tunnel in the 112th sub-basement of their Arizona facility.)

DiapDealer · 06-30-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

...oooooo, what you said. Have you no respect for management?

Many of them seem like perfectly lovely people. Forced by their superiors into believing that if you publish enough policies, those policies will cover every possible eventuality and thus absolve them from ever having to make any actual decisions or *shudder* a judgement call.

In other words, the goal of modern management is to never actually have to manage anything. Just follow the chain of policy to it's natural conclusion; point at the relevant spot in the manual, and recite it in an authoritative voice. A monkey could do it.

Spoiler:

Sydney's Mom · 06-30-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jersysman

I would start looking at the motivation of those individual(s) responsible for this piece. What is their gripe with Amazon? I saw a preview of the piece and knew I would not like it, so I didn't watch. Was the biggest complaints the environment where the work was being done or the pace of the work? I think that since we as a country have lost a lot of manufacturing jobs, there is a difference in the mentality of the workforce.

They had on the guy who wrote The Everything Store, and it was an unattractive look at Bezos, the warehouses were hot, and they expected you to walk up to 15 miles a day. My job requires I sit for 10 hours a day-I would love to walk. But I suppose the grass is always greener. My dad said don't ever leave a job because you hate it, because you will hate your next job, too.

FizzyWater · 06-30-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The biggest difference in the workforce mentality I encounter is shock that an employee is expected to actually be productive the entire time they're not at lunch or on break.

OMG, ain't this the truth.

(now, get off my lawn!)

eschwartz · 06-30-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

And the San Francisco earthquake and great chicago fire.

(The reason Amazon has thousands of employees at LAB126 is the Time Tunnel in the 112th sub-basement of their Arizona facility.)

I thought that was the 666th sub-basement?

Apache · 06-30-2014, 06:25 PM

My first job was mowing yards at age 12. I mowed 14 yards a week every week for two years. That was one a day Sunday through Friday and 8 on Saturday. I made anywhere from $2.00 a yard to $3.00 a yard, depending on size. I guess today that would be called child labor and I would not be allowed to do the job.
I have also worked a warehouse job staring at $9.75 and hour and leaving at $12.50 an hour. I considered myself quite lucky to have that job in an area where the largest employer paid mostly minimum wage and actively tried to keep higher paying businesses out.
Now I am self employed and it seems like I work all the time. I love people that tell me they wish they could be self employed and set their own hours. Yeah sure you would all 24/7 of them. When I am not working no one gets paid, and I am the last one to get his paycheck.
And do not get me started on the mentality of entirely to many employees who think that you owe them a paycheck and that making them work for it is abuse.
I also like the ones that think there is nothing wrong with sitting on their rear end drawing unemployment while not looking for work until it runs out. Their excuse is, they paid for it and are entitled to it. Most seem to not realize that no where on their pay stubs is a deduction for unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance, both state and federal, are paid for by the employer. And when a former employee is awarded unemployment the employer's insurance rate goes up to pay for it.
I will now relinquish the soapbox to someone else.

Apache

fjtorres · 06-30-2014, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

I thought that was the 666th sub-basement?

That's where they are cloning Bezos.
666 copies of him. Cause that's his favorite number.

Blossom · 06-30-2014, 10:08 PM

Hubby worked at a factory and was on what is called the hotline where they bake enamel onto the inner tanks of water heaters. He worked near a 1500 degree furnace. He started out at $10.75 and he was there 5 years as was making close to $15 an hour by the end. Yes it was HOT in there and he come home all sweaty and stinky. I really don't know of any factories or warehouses with A/C just big fans usually.

There was one factory in the Tricities that made batteries and they paid $7.50 and you had to do rotating 12 hour shifts. I'm sure you all heard of Exide batteries so we was so happy he get on at the Water heater factory instead.

$12.50 is a really good wage for starting out working at a warehouse.

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mgbino Groupie Posts: 199 Karma: 3039394 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Nook Glowlight	Actually, 12.50 an hour doesn't sound that bad for an entirely unskilled position.

06-30-2014, 05:27 PM	#21
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	May people save a bit of money and get ahead at les than $12.50 an hour. Many people go farther in debt each year with no assets at 3 times that much. I've worked at different levels of the wage scale starting at 30 cents an hour and making as much as $120 an hour. The $120 was very nice, but not steady work by any means and the stress level was high. made me pretty crazy and I spent a lot foolishly. Still it accounts for about 1/4 of my retirement savings. These days I work a menial job for $30-$40 an hour which anyone can get (there are always vacancies where I work and many in the industry) and this type of job has paid of my condo in 7 years and contributed the other 3/4s of my retirement savings. And I actually like the work. I think $12.50 is a reasonable rate for a starting position requiring few skills. But one can do much better or even much worse. Up to the individual whether they accept the job or not. Helen

06-30-2014, 06:25 PM	#28
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,279 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	My first job was mowing yards at age 12. I mowed 14 yards a week every week for two years. That was one a day Sunday through Friday and 8 on Saturday. I made anywhere from $2.00 a yard to $3.00 a yard, depending on size. I guess today that would be called child labor and I would not be allowed to do the job. I have also worked a warehouse job staring at $9.75 and hour and leaving at $12.50 an hour. I considered myself quite lucky to have that job in an area where the largest employer paid mostly minimum wage and actively tried to keep higher paying businesses out. Now I am self employed and it seems like I work all the time. I love people that tell me they wish they could be self employed and set their own hours. Yeah sure you would all 24/7 of them. When I am not working no one gets paid, and I am the last one to get his paycheck. And do not get me started on the mentality of entirely to many employees who think that you owe them a paycheck and that making them work for it is abuse. I also like the ones that think there is nothing wrong with sitting on their rear end drawing unemployment while not looking for work until it runs out. Their excuse is, they paid for it and are entitled to it. Most seem to not realize that no where on their pay stubs is a deduction for unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance, both state and federal, are paid for by the employer. And when a former employee is awarded unemployment the employer's insurance rate goes up to pay for it. I will now relinquish the soapbox to someone else. Apache

06-30-2014, 10:08 PM	#30
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	Hubby worked at a factory and was on what is called the hotline where they bake enamel onto the inner tanks of water heaters. He worked near a 1500 degree furnace. He started out at $10.75 and he was there 5 years as was making close to $15 an hour by the end. Yes it was HOT in there and he come home all sweaty and stinky. I really don't know of any factories or warehouses with A/C just big fans usually. There was one factory in the Tricities that made batteries and they paid $7.50 and you had to do rotating 12 hour shifts. I'm sure you all heard of Exide batteries so we was so happy he get on at the Water heater factory instead. $12.50 is a really good wage for starting out working at a warehouse.