Sigil won't launch on WinXP - Page 2

DiapDealer · 04-30-2014, 11:15 AM

Do you recall what version of Sigil you were using when it was working for you on that XP machine?

Dependency Walker is great for showing you any dependencies that may be missing. I don't think it requires an install of any kind. Just fire it up, point it at Sigil.exe and look for errors (warnings can usually be overlooked).

Billi · 04-30-2014, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

I suspect some Windows resource (dll, etc) that Sigil needs has gone missing somehow. But I can't work out which.

Can you go back to some former Windows repair point (don't know if this is the proper English word)?

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Is anyone else running Sigil on XP?

Yes. And out of pure interest I installed it anew just a few minutes ago. I took Sigil 7.3 and it all went fine.

AlanHK · 04-30-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Do you recall what version of Sigil you were using when it was working for you on that XP machine?

0.72 was working, then this week it wasn't. I uninstalled it and installed 0.74, uninstalled and went back to 0.72, then tried the portable 0.74. All just started and exited without opening a window.

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Dependency Walker is great for showing you any dependencies that may be missing. I don't think it requires an install of any kind. Just fire it up, point it at Sigil.exe and look for errors (warnings can usually be overlooked).

Thanks, will give it a try.

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DiapDealer · 04-30-2014, 12:35 PM

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AlanHK · 04-30-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Dependency Walker is great for showing you any dependencies that may be missing. I don't think it requires an install of any kind. Just fire it up, point it at Sigil.exe and look for errors (warnings can usually be overlooked).

THANKS!
I think that's given me the answer.
It said ieshims.dll and wer.dll were needed.

These are Internet Explorer files, and seem to have been replaced by other files.
MS had to break something with its final update.

same problem as https://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/25410

Late here so I'll confirm that tomorrow and hopefully have Sigil again.

Toxaris · 04-30-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

My PC is 6 months old and overpowered for most things I do.It handles 1080p video and Photoshop etc. all fine. And Calibre does run okay.

Six months old and running XP? Why would you do that? XP is no longer supported by Microsoft, I hope you know that?

DiapDealer · 04-30-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

THANKS!
I think that's given me the answer.
It said ieshims.dll and wer.dll were needed.

These are Internet Explorer files, and seem to have been replaced by other files.
MS had to break something with its final update.

same problem as https://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/25410

Late here so I'll confirm that tomorrow and hopefully have Sigil again.

I hope it works for you. Just know that my working versions of Sigil have always reported the missing IESHIMS.DLL.

From Dependency Walker's FAQ:

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Missing delay-load functions are not a problem as long as the calling DLL is prepared to handle the situation.

theducks · 04-30-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

I suspect some Windows resource (dll, etc) that Sigil needs has gone missing somehow. But I can't work out which.

Is anyone else running Sigil on XP?

I run Sigil almost every day on XP SP3 (fresh , first time reinstall after 5 ears of use). It opens Slow (about 5 times slower than my W7 laptop), but it is reasonable once up and displaying.

BetterRed · 04-30-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

I think that's given me the answer.
It said ieshims.dll and wer.dll were needed.

These are Internet Explorer files, and seem to have been replaced by other files.
MS had to break something with its final update.

Have a look at this stackoverflow thread ==>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...er-dll-missing

One guy fixed by winding IE back to from 8 to 7.

But why only Sigil and not other programs

appears that it's probably something to do with QT 5 which Sigil uses, calibre currently uses Qt 4.?, do you have any other Qt programs installed ?

BR

jbacelar · 04-30-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

Is anyone else running Sigil on XP?

Yes for years, and I never had problems with the successive versions of Sigil.
XP SP3 with automatic updates until the end.

AlanHK · 04-30-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I hope it works for you. Just know that my working versions of Sigil have always reported the missing IESHIMS.DLL.

Yes, false positive.
Those were the only missing files reported by DW, but installing them Sigil still doesn't launch.

Also apparently these are "delay load dependencies" which means the program should start without them. might fail later. So they aren't the roadblock.

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Originally Posted by BetterRed

But why only Sigil and not other programs

appears that it's probably something to do with QT 5 which Sigil uses, calibre currently uses Qt 4.?, do you have any other Qt programs installed ?

Calibre
Avidemux, which has Qt 4.8.4

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goldilocks · 04-30-2014, 09:39 PM

On my XP3 system I am running SIGIL 0.5.3 which says Qt 4.7.4. Runs with no problems.
So, did you do a virus scan of your computer? Other scans? Restart?

AlanHK · 04-30-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by goldilocks

On my XP3 system I am running SIGIL 0.5.3 which says Qt 4.7.4. Runs with no problems.

OK -- I tried that version, IT WORKS.

So probably a Qt5 issue.
Can you run later versions?
(Try the portable if you don't want to mess with your current setup.)

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So, did you do a virus scan of your computer? Other scans? Restart?

Yes to all.

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AlanHK · 04-30-2014, 10:41 PM

Well, solved the problem, but no real explanation.

I installed 0.5.3 as above. worked (Qt 4.8.4)
then uninstalled and installed 0.6.2. Worked. (Qt 4.8.4)
then uninstalled and installed 0.7.0. Worked. (Qt 5.1.0))
then uninstalled and installed 0.7.2. Worked.
then uninstalled and installed 0.7.4. Worked.

So, 0.7.x (using Qt5) is now working on my PC. No idea of how much of that procedure was necessary.

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goldilocks · 05-01-2014, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

OK -- I tried that version, IT WORKS.

So probably a Qt5 issue.
Can you run later versions?
(Try the portable if you don't want to mess with your current setup.)

Yes to all.

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Glad you got it working! I haven't tried any other versions. I have moved on to my Win7 laptop. I may try the portable version though!

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Do you recall what version of Sigil you were using when it was working for you on that XP machine? Dependency Walker is great for showing you any dependencies that may be missing. I don't think it requires an install of any kind. Just fire it up, point it at Sigil.exe and look for errors (warnings can usually be overlooked). Last edited by DiapDealer; 04-30-2014 at 11:20 AM.

04-30-2014, 10:41 PM	#29
AlanHK Guru Posts: 681 Karma: 929286 Join Date: Apr 2014 Device: PW-3, iPad, Android phone	Well, solved the problem, but no real explanation. I installed 0.5.3 as above. worked (Qt 4.8.4) then uninstalled and installed 0.6.2. Worked. (Qt 4.8.4) then uninstalled and installed 0.7.0. Worked. (Qt 5.1.0)) then uninstalled and installed 0.7.2. Worked. then uninstalled and installed 0.7.4. Worked. So, 0.7.x (using Qt5) is now working on my PC. No idea of how much of that procedure was necessary. [Comment deleted - MODERATOR] Last edited by Dr. Drib; 05-04-2014 at 10:45 AM.

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goldilocks Addict Posts: 344 Karma: 1222222 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Florida Device: Sony PRS-505	On my XP3 system I am running SIGIL 0.5.3 which says Qt 4.7.4. Runs with no problems. So, did you do a virus scan of your computer? Other scans? Restart?