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This doesn't turn people into murderers, obviously, but I have little doubt that the impact of exposure to interactive violence isn't beneficial. Neither are violent movies and shows, but they are not as engaging. |
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My modus operandi is quite different (and very comparable to CWatkinsNash). Basically, I just *don't hurry*. Not even at work, if there's not a very good reason for it. I don't get stressed out (normally), and I'm not always trying to do many things at the same time. You'll never find me trying to make a phone call while paying my groceries while also chatting with someone else. My unhurried way of living has given me a 20 hour attention span (if I should need it), and patience, among other things. I *refuse* to jam-pack every single minute in my schedule with some sort of activity or task, and I build in buffers whenever possible. The result is that, mostly, I always have time, while others are always rushing. Others: "Let's see.... yes, I can fit that appointment in between 16:21 and 16:47; Yes, see you then. I just need to make sure I leave on time for my appointment of 16:50." Me: "No, sorry. Can't fit that appointment today, but you can pick another date. Choose any time after 16:00, and any day, except next Tuesday." I am also alone, by choice, which provides me the option of doing (or not doing) whatever I want, when I want, and how I want. Other people actually hate me for my way of living. Not too long ago, someone told me: "Yeah, easy for you to say, but you have a *simple* life!" Indeed. That's the entire point of my remark, fool. You don't just *have* a simple life, you *choose* to lead it as such. I chose this simple life, just as you chose the complex one, having a wife, a girlfriend, two mistresses, 5 children (in between mentioned four women), packing every single waking minute with tasks and appointments (making up lies in the process to keep the wife, gf and mistresses out of each other's hair), causing you to have the attention span of a goldfish, because you always feel you need to be doing something else than the thing you are actually doing. So there. That was some monstrous sentence, wasn't it? ![]() Last edited by Katsunami; 04-11-2014 at 11:09 AM. |
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The one place I experience that is at work: whatever you do, however you do it, it's never fast enough. Faster, more faster, fasterderder is the motto. At some point, it will only start to cause errors, so you need to re-do the work, and in the end, you'll end up being slower. Quote:
Now that we have computers, e-mail, cars, and so on, we CAN do more in one day, so we WILL do more in one day, up to the point of absurdity. I can remember my grandma saying: "Huh? That bus isn't late." It was 5-6 minutes late, but she remembered a time in which bus arrival and departure times stated to be 12:30 actually meant "somewhere between 12:25 and 12:40," so she arrived at 12:20 and expected having to wait up to 20 minutes. It's completely unfathomable to the current day commuters/travelers. If the bus sign says "12:34", they'll be at the stop at 12:33, and grumbling at 12:35 (or, grumbling if they missed the bus that was 21 seconds early). Last edited by Katsunami; 04-11-2014 at 11:00 AM. |
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Frustration is frustration and bureaucracies lead to more violence than all video games ever, combined. |
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Isn't it more likely that people with a naturally high level of aggression choose to play shooting games, than that playing shooting games creates the aggression? |
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Just to clarify: that article is about the hypertext vaporware project Xanadu (and the people involved in it) -- the www is *not* the same thing and did not come from that project. The article even states: Quote:
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However for myself I have to say that I live at a very similar pace to you. I live alone, don't have a hectic social life and work a job where as far as it is in my power I work on one task at a time until I complete it. But I don't have a 20-hour attention span (I need sleep for a start) and I find it harder to get into denser books than I used to. I find it harder to motivate myself to read. As I said in my initial post, I'd noticed this problem before and not blamed it on "the internet" but more on my memory. But I wonder if another part of the problem is that I've just read more. And the more I have to compare with the less good the new stuff seems. It usually seems OK but rarely more than that. (I call it the 7/10 problem as it's the most common rating I tend to give books) I've tried over the last few years to really push myself to read. I've tried reading different genres. I've tried just picking stuff that seems fun. I've set reading goals. I've tried lots of things. And don't get me wrong I've read some good books and enjoyed them OK. I've read a few really good books. But at the end of the day, I'm more likely to reach for the TV remote than my ereader and I'm more likely to reach for my PC than that. And I'm nervous admitting that because it seems like people see that as a moral failing but it's just where I'm at. I'd like to be a more engaged reader. I still get excited by the idea of books. I didn't set out to change but it seems I have. The problem is everything I've tried to reverse the trend seems to make it feel like a chore. Oh well. |
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Hmm. I think I agree with just about everything that's been said in this thread so far, except Mivo's comment on shooter games. I have always found shooters to be an outlet.
Key point I agree with: We sometimes want our info in bite-size chunks because we often have a great number of other things we'd like to squeeze into our time. This hectic-ness is often beneficial to getting things done, sometimes necessary, but should be thought of as a temporary state better off avoided, not something to aspire to. Like pushing the engine past the red-line, nice to know the power is there when you need it, but it's not supposed to be driven like that all the time. The goal should be to be free to stop and smell the roses. And then do so when possible. Last edited by ApK; 04-11-2014 at 02:03 PM. |
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Any sort of outlet for aggression is going to raise adrenaline levels. Playing basketball - or any other sport - is going to raise adrenaline levels. It's probably not so good if people's adrenaline-raising activities are all one where they sit on a couch not getting exercise, but there isn't good evidence that video games make people violent. As games have become more realistic, violence levels have decreased.
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It's the same with all of my other hobbies, even reading. Normally I don't go months without a book, but weeks is not unheard of (such as right now, because of too much work to do...). Quote:
This way, I have played Neverwinter Nights (2006), The Witcher 1 (2007), Dragon Age (2009), and The Witcher 2 (2011; I even upgraded my graphics card for that one), but never finished any of them. I actually lost interest in Dragon Age at around 90%, after waiting 5 years and reading the pre-release books as fast as if the next day would be the last I'd live. Last edited by Katsunami; 04-11-2014 at 04:35 PM. |
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I used to stay up into the late hours of the night reading when I just couldn't put a book down. I've been up past 4 AM reading and then gone to work in the morning a bit tired, but nothing that some coffee won't fix. I don't do that anymore. But it's nothing to do with the internet, it's just getting older.
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the only thing that changed is attention span: there's so many different kinds of entertainment right now that people focus on no one, they just zap between them all. Back in other centuries, it was pretty much just books and sex.
My focus for a novel when it is really attention grabbing is as strong as it ever was. I have tons of books on the kindle (and luckily no game or videos), but I'm able to concentrate on one alone when they have my full attention. |
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