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Old 10-28-2008, 09:03 AM   #76
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So... it's been pret' much a century-and-a-half that you've been threatening it... when you guys gonna just up and secede already?...

Oh, and if you leave the urbanites behind, I got dibs on Austin...
***sigh*** Like I keep saying, if Texas secedes, what are we going to use as material for Westerns?
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***sigh*** Like I keep saying, if Texas secedes, what are we going to use as material for Westerns?
OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo-- klahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain!...
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:47 AM   #78
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Neko-chan, you might look at the Aptera, which (hopefully) will become available in California in a few months. The safest motorcycle (sic) ever designed (to date), and electric, to boot.
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Sorry to be testy, but as a Texan, I've been at the receiving end of dikta from well-meaning urbanites who have had no clue about Texas conditions and culture for all my life (50+) years. And if you disagree, you're treated as an ignorant child, who really should just listen to his/her betters. It's the same attitude that brought forth the term "Ugly American" in many foreign countries. And we can't even yell "Yankee, go home!" here....I'm afraid I've grown rather thin-skinned about the attitude, "if only you'd do things our way the world would be a much better place." I respond "prove it!", and then things get lively...
I can appreciate your point of view. We don't all live in the same kinds of places. I, for example, live in relatively rural New Hampshire, but "rural" here does not have the same meaning it does in Texas, I'm sure. (Again, I'm only 7 miles from a small college campus.) I do, however, have snow to deal with!

Taking "culture" into account is trickier. I think we all have a lot of unquestioned assumptions about what is acceptable based on what we've always done or always seen done, and some of these assumptions are defended under the banner of "culture." On the other hand, cultural identity is part of what makes us human. And there can be just as many unquestioned assumptions about what "other people" are doing "wrong" as there are about what we are doing ourselves being fine. I think I'll go with Socrates that "the unconsidered life is not worth living" and leave it at that.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:04 AM   #79
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So... it's been pret' much a century-and-a-half that you've been threatening it... when you guys gonna just up and secede already?...

Oh, and if you leave the urbanites behind, I got dibs on Austin...
We did secede in 1861. The urbanites of the times didn't want to let us go...After 4 years if war, we were the last man standing, on the losing side, and gave up fighting. The Supreme Court of the time never did rule on the legality of secession.

Re austin: what do we get in return?
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We did secede in 1861. The urbanites of the times didn't want to let us go...After 4 years if war, we were the last man standing, on the losing side, and gave up fighting. The Supreme Court of the time never did rule on the legality of secession.
Hmm... so, you're among the "Surrender? Nevuh!" crowd. "Great horny toads! Gotta burn mah boots... they teched Yankee soil!" I can see that.

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You can have... um... Reno. That's a pretty happening town...
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:32 AM   #81
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You can have upstate NH in exchange for Austin, if you like. Lots of cantankerous "Live Free or Die" libertarians there, plus you get skiing. (Even in the summer.)
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Hmm... so, you're among the "Surrender? Nevuh!" crowd. "Great horny toads! Gotta burn mah boots... they teched Yankee soil!" I can see that.



You can have... um... Reno. That's a pretty happening town...
Make it the whole Nevada sierra back range and you've got a deal....

P.S. Horny Toads are cute little critters. I used to catch 'em, pet 'em and turn them loose as a kid...
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VivaldiRules -- do you need assistance? I have an intercontinental ballistic trebuchet I could load with some fish.....
We've already done that routine... How about some clotted cream....
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Make it the whole Nevada sierra back range and you've got a deal....
Sorry, you guys are hoarding too much land as it is. All right, we'll throw in San Diego... wotta bargain!
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Good point ShortNCuddlyAm. Anyone would think RSE is trying something. I suggest we fall back to returning all the US election coverage. That and some custard pies.

Does anyone have some targetting data (preferably on Jacquard Loom punched cards -- I really must upgrade the targetting system some time)?
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No but I have this old device where you could input the targeting codes by flipping little switches and the soft golden glow of the tubes will really keep you warm.
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No but I have this old device where you could input the targeting codes by flipping little switches and the soft golden glow of the tubes will really keep you warm.
Does it have a mechanical linkage? The sort you'd normally use with to drive a dobby. The Trebuchet has a somewhat, ummmm, specialised interface....
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