Cover problem when using Calibre's "Polish" function

[BetterRed]

@seacity - you might also want to give the Modify PI a shot with options as shown in screen shot. It more or less does what Polish does with covers, and I see no reason why it should work when Polish doesn't, but... we'll never ever know unless we try.

If it doesn't work then - ???

BR

[seacity1]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@seacity - please post a screen shot of settings you have for Polish Books - here's mine for reference

BR

The only things I have checked are update metadata & update cover. The only other things I ever check is remove inserted bookjacket.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by seacity1

The only things I have checked are update metadata & update cover. The only other things I ever check is remove inserted bookjacket.

Is the metadata being updated - add a couple of lines to Comments, do the Polish and then can you see the updated Comments in Calibre's viewer (Click the Blue I)? And assuming its possible can you see them on your Nook

BR

[seacity1]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@seacity - you might also want to give the Modify PI a shot with options as shown in screen shot. It more or less does what Polish does with covers, and I see no reason why it should work when Polish doesn't, but... we'll never ever know unless we try.

If it doesn't work then - ???

BR

When

I assume that ModifyPI is a Plug in? It's worth a shot.

Thanks!

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by seacity1

I assume that ModifyPI is a Plug in? It's worth a shot.

Try the Comments idea too

Yes its a Plug In - PI what the aficionados call them

BR shalt not use jargon, lest he get

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by seacity1

I assume that ModifyPI is a Plug in? It's worth a shot.

It is the Modify Epub plugin and BR didn't just recommend you try it he provided a link above to the first post description of the plugin.

But I'm betting that Polish, Modify ePub plugin and Send to device all use the exact same code to insert the cover. In the past (and possibly currently) there were situations where the three ways to insert a cover listed above did not suffice. In these cases converting to epub (even epub to epub) or editing the file was the only way to insert the cover.

[seacity1]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Try the Comments idea too

Yes its a Plug In - PI what the aficionados call them

BR shalt not use jargon, lest he get

It slowly drifted into my awareness field that PI probably stood for "Plug-In". It's after midnight here & I've used up my excitment units for the day. Will find & load the PI tomorrow (see I do catch on). This is really no big deal but appreciate your help. I've been using convert as a workaround so that's the fallback I guess. I wish it would also remove an inserted bookjacket. I do not know why people do that!

[seacity1]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

It is the Modify Epub plugin and BR didn't just recommend you try it he provided a link above to the first post description of the plugin.

But I'm betting that Polish, Modify ePub plugin and Send to device all use the exact same code to insert the cover. In the past (and possibly currently) there were situations where the three ways to insert a cover listed above did not suffice. In these cases converting to epub (even epub to epub) or editing the file was the only way to insert the cover.

b
Thanks - I see it now. I suspect you are probably right but I'll try.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by seacity1

b
Thanks - I see it now. I suspect you are probably right but I'll try.

The prerequisite previously was if the book had the cover properly identified then Polish, Modify ePub plugin or Send to device would update the cover everytime with the one identified in the GUI. However, if the cover wasn't identified correctly in the book then a conversion was required to set the proper coding for the cover.

[bobstro]

It sounds like the covers show up in Calibre Companion but not the B&N device library, so "something" is in the right place for a cover image. Can the original cover formatting cause problems that might be fixed by removal and recreation? My understanding is that metadata including the cover will be updated to match the Calibre database when using "Send to device", but the original file on disk is untouched unless you use one of convert, Modify ePub or Polish. Is that correct? Would simply deleting then re-adding a cover before a sync make a difference?

Probably worth asking whether the "defective" copies have been deleted from the device before a fresh sync with Calibre Companion. I seem to have to manually delete them to get the updated version onto my device (though a different device).

Safe to assume these aren't DRM-encumbered since covers show up in CC?

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by seacity1

I wish it would also remove an inserted bookjacket. I do not know why people do that!

Modify has an option to remove book jackets - and if you set preferences options as per attachment then Conversion won't create them

BR

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by bobstro

It sounds like the covers show up in Calibre Companion but not the B&N device library, so "something" is in the right place for a cover image.

Calibre Companion (CC) does not extract the cover from the book, CC always uses the cover that is showing in the calibre GUI.

Originally Posted by bobstro

Can the original cover formatting cause problems that might be fixed by removal and recreation? My understanding is that metadata including the cover will be updated to match the Calibre database when using "Send to device", but the original file on disk is untouched unless you use one of convert, Modify ePub or Polish. Is that correct? Would simply deleting then re-adding a cover before a sync make a difference?

Possibly but as I stated above if the cover is not properly identified then Send to device may not be able to update the cover.

Originally Posted by bobstro

Probably worth asking whether the "defective" copies have been deleted from the device before a fresh sync with Calibre Companion. I seem to have to manually delete them to get the updated version onto my device (though a different device).

Certainly worth asking. Also the app may cache covers and the cache may have to be deleted along with deleting and resending the book.

I personally don't see the appeal since I use CC to find and launch my books I don't care if the reading app shows a cover on their bookshelf.

Originally Posted by bobstro

Safe to assume these aren't DRM-encumbered since covers show up in CC?

It's never safe to assume anything. CC doesn't rely on the book to get the covers.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by bobstro

Safe to assume these aren't DRM-encumbered since covers show up in CC?

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

It's never safe to assume anything. CC doesn't rely on the book to get the covers.

CC doesn't get any data from the book. CC's only use of a book is to pass its file path to the chosen reader app. CC will operate even if the book file is gone, excepting (of course) being able to read the book.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by chaley

CC does get any data from the book.

Unless I read the above wrong, did you mean doesn't?

You're making me feel better. I write whole paragraphs on here and constantly forget the contractions that I was clearly thinking at the time. I am so ready for some sort of direct brain interface.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

Unless I read the above wrong, did you mean doesn't?

You're making me feel better. I write whole paragraphs on here and constantly forget the contractions that I was clearly thinking at the time. I am so ready for some sort of direct brain interface.

You are right. And like you, sometimes what my fingers produce has little relation to what my brain thought it was asking for.