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There have been environmental impact studies, and as far as the manufacture of the ereader goes (which is by far the greatest share of its impact), you "break even" after maybe 30-50 books, depending on your assumptions.
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Surely that's only true if the paper books that you would otherwise have bought would not exist as a result of you having bought the reader. Is that a valid assumption?
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As an overall part of an average person's environmental impact, either (ebooks vs paper books) is probably pretty minimal; but that's not really a great reason not to reduce impact where you reasonably can. |
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But think of this. If only one thousand people read a thousand books, that's one million paper books that had to be manufactured, compared to only one thousand eReaders needed to read the same number of books.
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I crunched the numbers for this a while back: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=11
To repeat here for you convenience since necro-posting is frowned upon: The vast majority of trees which are cut for paper pulp are quick-growing loblolly pines which will be re-planted almost immediately, larger, older, nicer trees are usually cut for lumber, so one should be able to let the 8.85 pounds figure stand for paper products w/o concern for deforestation. Here's a page which indicates most CO_2 production is for energy: http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/ggrpt/carbon.html And here's a page which indicates that CO_2 production is a much larger problem for the manufacturing of electronics: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49730 w/ a ratio of 12 to 1 for energy usage to weight, so my PRS-505 weighs roughly 9 ozs., so presumably required 108 ounces of fuel to manufacture (on-going energy usage is not considered) http://www.epa.gov/oms/climate/420f05001.htm gives us a figure of 19.4 pounds of CO_2 per gallon of gasoline which equals roughly 16.36875 pounds of CO_2 to make the ebook reader. So getting two books for the Sony should make it roughly break even, and each printed book beyond that which is not purchased should result in a net reduction of CO_2 emissions, since the energybulletin.net page indicates that the embodied energy usage for electronics is much greater than the lifetime usage. |
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So we're all doing the right thing by using ebook readers. I doubt that anyone here has read fewer than two books per device they've bought, not even HarryT. |
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These advertisements that I get in my mailbox that I can't even opt out of are a waste of paper. A paper book can be reused a number of times. An e-reader is just a few ounces of plastic. If you're concerned about wasted plastic, use a metal water bottle instead of buying bottled water. You'll more than compensate for the plastic in you're e-reader quite quickly.
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Cleantech's estimate of just the carbon impact over the lifetime of an eink reader was 168 kg (carbon dioxide equivalent emissions), but that's a pretty old analysis now. |
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That is per e-reader. So those of us who are updating every year and not reading 51 books a year are not doing the environment any favors. Those of us who are reading 51 books on a given e-reader have earned our Captain Planet badge. Woohoooo |
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So, it looks like not having an ereader and not reading any books would be the most environmentally-sound option. I don't think any of us here are very keen on that one. And I guess it depends what we'd be doing instead.
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Well when I was a kid they Forced ALL the Stores to switch from Paper to Plastic! Just to save the Trees! So how many trees do you think your saving by using a Re-Use able eReader over a Bunch of HB/PB books made from trees!
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Weird. Paper is a renewable resource. Plastic (from oil) is not.
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The books still exist (print numbers will go down eventually, but I assume that takes some time until publishers have a good idea how many paper vs ebooks they tend to sell and adjust print numbers accordingly) and obviously planes still fly and cargo trucks run also without my books on them, but overall, I'd assume that people importing fewer goods from abroad can't have a negative effect. |
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