Adobe Digital Editions 3.0 released

[Lynx-lynx]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

I'm still running 1.7. Should I upgrade to 2.0.1 now? Will that let me stick to the old DRM longer than if I keep 1.7, or won't there be a difference?

You could use Sony Reader for PC to download instead of ADE, and then not upgrade to their next version until the tool issue is resolved.

[Akshayy]

Originally Posted by Lynx-lynx

@Akshayy is there a way of establishing what content server edition an ebook is going to downloaded from prior to purchase
For example, if I wanted to buy book x from Kobo - how could I determine which content server Kobo was using?
By the way - thank you very much for all your information

I can't post links, because of forum newb spam security..
get the fulfillment URL form acsm file and add statuscheck at the end. like this
URL/fulfillment/statuscheck/

you can google search acs fulfillment statuscheck, there is page at datalogics which explains.

its 4.0.3 for kobo.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by Akshayy

I can't post links, because of forum newb spam security..
get the fulfillment URL form acsm file and add statuscheck at the end.

As far as I know, you can't get the acsm file until after you purchase.

[Jane12]

@Akshayy: I see from the Getting Started guide that ADE 3.0 will continue to support epubs that use bookseller-specific unlock codes (the type of Adobe DRM used by Barnes & Noble) instead of acsm files. Do you know if any of the changes you've mentioned affect bookseller-specific Adobe DRM or does it only apply to DRM that uses acsm files?

In other words, when it comes to ebooks purchased from Barnes & Noble, will it ever make a difference which version of ADE or which ereader I open it in first?

Thanks!

[Akshayy]

Originally Posted by meeera

As far as I know, you can't get the acsm file until after you purchase.

I purchased a free book from kobo and checked inside the acsm file.

Originally Posted by Jane12

@Akshayy: I see from the Getting Started guide that ADE 3.0 will continue to support epubs that use bookseller-specific unlock codes (the type of Adobe DRM used by Barnes & Noble) instead of acsm files. Do you know if any of the changes you've mentioned affect bookseller-specific Adobe DRM or does it only apply to DRM that uses acsm files?

In other words, when it comes to ebooks purchased from Barnes & Noble, will it ever make a difference which version of ADE or which ereader I open it in first?

Thanks!

Good question, you won't be facing any issues because barnes and nobles uses its own encryption! They won't be encrypted using newer drm. You won't face any issue. You can transfer your books to older supported devices as well from ade 3.0, if you have problems just let me know.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by Akshayy

I purchased a free book from kobo and checked inside the acsm file.

But this doesn't tell the consumer that Kobo uses the same content server for all of its books, or whether they're going to be using it for all their books at some unspecified time in the future.

Lynx-lynx's question was this:

@Akshayy is there a way of establishing what content server edition an ebook is going to downloaded from prior to purchase?

Are you suggesting that every single time we go to buy a book, we should download a free one from that bookseller first, dig around in the acsm file, and hope for the best? That's really not a sustainable response to the question.

[Akshayy]

Originally Posted by meeera

But this doesn't tell the consumer that Kobo uses the same content server for all of its books, or whether they're going to be using it for all their books at some unspecified time in the future.

Are you suggesting that every single time we go to buy a book, we should download a free one from that bookseller first, dig around in the acsm file, and hope for the best? That's really not a sustainable response to the question.

Copy pasting...

now I understand your concern, you want to know for sure before you purchase!
If you are a little concerned, buy a latest free book and check inside, so new paid books also should use the same.

wait for kobo to announce maintenance and updates, I am pretty sure they won't push a secret ninja update, they will inform all the customers and even we would know it when they update, I can post that news for you.

ultimately if kobo decides to use new drm for new books with new acs server, they must update their customers kobo readers, so everything will work fine!
also there is backward compatibility. old books can be read too on new device, reader, updated firmware.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by Akshayy

ultimately if kobo decides to use new drm for new books with new acs server, they must update their customers kobo readers, so everything will work fine!

"They must"? How is this enforced? Any presumption that companies won't screw their customers around is a very naive one indeed. Have you been reading the replies in this thread? Are you aware of the long history of DRM being abandoned and leaving customers high and dry without access to their purchases?

[Akshayy]

Originally Posted by meeera

"They must"? How is this enforced? Any presumption that companies won't screw their customers around is a very naive one indeed. Have you been reading the replies in this thread? Are you aware of the long history of DRM being abandoned and leaving customers high and dry without access to their purchases?

Don't fear, like other member said too much FUD going on here.
See the system is designed to work properly and not break in all most all situations.

It breaks only if you open new drm books in old reader.

BUT You would end up with new DRM books only if you have the ability the read such a book. Which means you can always read it on ADE 3.0 or Android or iOS apps and never be left high and dry.

I came here to see if there are problems reading, and then help fix it.

[Lynx-lynx]

I don't know why Akshayy has chosen to join this FOrum and share his ADE knowledge with us but I am pleased he/she has.

Akshayy is telling us what he knows and tries to help by answering our queries. I would not like to see him/her used to voice one's anger at Adobe and ADE programmers.

Perhaps those comments could be emailed directly to ADE.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Lynx-lynx

I don't know why Akshayy has chosen to join this FOrum and share his ADE knowledge with us but I am pleased he/she has.

Akshayy is telling us what he knows and tries to help by answering our queries. I would not like to see him/her used to voice one's anger at Adobe and ADE programmers.

Perhaps those comments could be emailed directly to ADE.

This. ^^

I doubt Akshayy has the ability to overturn the momentum that certain business decisions (ah-hem!) have put in motion, and s/he definitely isn't the one responsible for those policies.

[Josieb1]

Discussions like this always make me very grateful that I read a genre (romance) that has lots of independent publishers all selling ebooks DRM free, we even have a one shop all store (like Amazon) called Allromance, where books can be purchased from all the publishers, including self published novels, which in my genre are very good.

I wonder when publishers and ebook sellers will finally realise DRM and encryption actually costs them sales, or will if they make it too hard.

[alanHd]

Reading this thread has made me definitely decide that my next ereader will definitely be another kindle

Originally Posted by Akshayy

It breaks only if you open new drm books in old reader.

BUT You would end up with new DRM books only if you have the ability the read such a book. Which means you can always read it on ADE 3.0 or Android or iOS apps and never be left high and dry..

I'm sorry but I buy an ereader to read books not use an app or my laptop.

I can see this been used to force newer Ereaders on people.

[cromag]

My first choice in buying an ebook is to go to a guaranteed DRM-free source, like Baen or Smashwords. If I have to go with a DRM-ed copy, my first choice is Barnes & Noble, because I can disinfect it on my Linux netbook. My second choice is Amazon, because of their selection and pricing strategy, but I have to use my Windows box to disinfect it. I've bought a few books at Kobo, and I enjoy their coupons, but I have to download them on my Windows box, which is already inconvenient. If there's even a hint that I'll waste money on an ebook that can't be "Alf'ed" I won't bother with them, no matter what the coupon.

Sorry, Akshayy, but you're perfecting something that I want to avoid.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by cromag

My first choice in buying an ebook is to go to a guaranteed DRM-free source, like Baen or Smashwords. If I have to go with a DRM-ed copy, my first choice is Barnes & Noble, because I can disinfect it on my Linux netbook. My second choice is Amazon, because of their selection and pricing strategy, but I have to use my Windows box to disinfect it. I've bought a few books at Kobo, and I enjoy their coupons, but I have to download them on my Windows box, which is already inconvenient. If there's even a hint that I'll waste money on an ebook that can't be "Alf'ed" I won't bother with them, no matter what the coupon.

Sorry, Akshayy, but you're perfecting something that I want to avoid.

You can try running K4PC and ADE in WINE, both are supposed to work pretty well. ADE might require using v1.7 (available on the internet, not sure where but google does ) You can even tell the scripts to look at them through WINE to extract the keys, I believe.